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Subscribe to RSSOsama Bin Laden's brother in law, Zakaria al-Sadah, spoke to NBC News in Islamabad in his first interview with an American television network. NBC's Amna Nawaz reports.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Zakaria al-Sadah, Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law, said he is worried for the health of his sister, who was shot in the raid that killed the al-Qaida leader.
Speaking to NBC News in Islamabad on Tuesday in his first interview with an American television network, al-Sadah talked about his fight to free his sister, Amal al-Sadah, who has been held, along with her five children, by the Pakistan government since the May 2011 raid by U.S. Navy SEALs.
"I want to get them out as soon as possible," al-Sadah said, "because kids, they can forget the past in the right environment. They will carry on."
Favorite wife
Twenty-nine year old Amal al-Sadah, originally from Yemen, had an arranged marriage with bin Laden when she was 17 or 18, in 1999 or 2000. She lived with him and their five children, now between three and 12 years old, in the Abbottabad compound made notorious by the U.S. forces' nighttime raid in which her husband was killed.
Al-Sadah said he was at home in Yemen when he got the news of the American raid and that his sister's presence at the compound shocked him and his family.
"We didn't know that our sister was with him at the time," he said. "My mother, my father, my whole family was surprised that this had happened and she was actually there."
He explained that his family had been largely estranged from Amal after her marriage to bin Laden. Any communication between them was infrequent, and usually came through couriers. He didn't even know she or bin Laden were living in Abbottabad.
Bin Laden is believed to have been married six times, but divorced two of his wives. Amal was the last to marry him, his youngest wife, and reportedly also his favorite. Bin Laden reportedly spent the last years of his life mostly with Amal, with whom he lived and slept in the top portion of the compound.
Amal was shot in the leg during the U.S. operation, and her brother believes her physical condition may be worsening.
"I've seen them eight times, each visit for an hour, maybe an hour and a half," he said. "But the last visit was two and a half months ago."
Al-Sadah said the last time he saw his sister, she had lost the use of her injured leg. He is concerned authorities are deliberately keeping him from visiting to hide her deteriorating health.
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Zakaria al-Sadah speaks to NBC News' Amna Nawaz about his fight to free his sister, Osama bin Laden's widow, from Pakistani custody.
Long list of charges
For al-Sadah, the process has been a long and drawn out one. He said that after questioning by the special government commission investigating bin Laden's presence here, Amal’s return to Yemen seemed imminent.
But he said that with each step forward has come with two steps back. In the latest twist to the widows' story, Pakistan recently announced that all three women are being charged with illegally entering and staying in Pakistan and would continue to be confined to a house in Islamabad.
Al-Sadah, who has retained a lawyer to help secure his sister's freedom, says he's written to Pakistan's chief justice for permission for his sister, nieces and nephews to return with him to Yemen.
"Everyone knows that women and children – they're innocent," he said. "[Bin Laden] made them busy with the kids, taking care of the kids' needs. They were not included, none of them were included, in any of his agendas."
But the Pakistani government says it has its reasons for holding the women.
“The widows are facing charges of illegal entry, harboring an offender, impersonation and abetment,” said a senior official in Pakistan’s Ministry of the Interior, explaining the charges against Amal and the other widows. He spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case. “The punishments carry different kinds of sentences, so it is now up to courts proceedings. How much time it will take, no one can say.”
Another Pakistani intelligence official, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity, explained another reason why the women’s case may be moving so slowly. “Since the Saudi and Yemeni governments have not made up their minds to take them back, the legal process could take a long time to keep them away from public scene.”
However, Aamir Khalil, the lawyer for Al-Sadah working on Amal’s case, of course sees things differently. “The case was filed after 10 months which is illegal; already we have filed a petition to quash the case and acquittal.”
He added that Islamabad’s High Court has directed the Director General of Pakistan’s ISI, Pakistan’s premiere intelligence agency, and the Ministries of Interior and Defense to arrange a meeting between Amal and her brother as soon as possible.
‘Next time’
For now, al-Sadah said all he can do is try to provide some sense of hope for his nieces and nephews, most of whom can only remember life inside the compound walls in which their father was killed.
Al-Sadah said he had taken them toys when he was allowed to see them – soccer balls, balloons, and books – and that at the end of each visit, the children would beg him not to go.
"I always lied to them, whenever they asked me to stay," he said. "I would lie and say, 'Next time we'll go to the park,' 'Next time we'll go outside.' I keep telling them they're going to come back home soon."
NBC News' Fakhar Rehman contributed to this report.
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Let her go; she didn't do anything wrong.
Neither did Eva Braun, right?
Chris,
This woman was put in this position by an arranged marriage to Bin Laden - she had no choice. Eva Braun had complete freedom to be in the relationship she was in. Big difference, my friend. Big.
She was shot because she tried to attack the Seals that day..that's a no no.
So considering that she was placed in an arranged marriage, and considering how men are raised to treat women, how likely is it that this brother really does care? Or is he just looking for his 15 minutes of fame, or maybe someone has put him up to this. Just seems odd to me.
Seems like the Pkistani government takes their illegal immigrant issues more seriously than the lip service some countries give.
"Amal al-Sadah, who has been held, along with her five children, by the Pakistan government since the May 2011 raid by U.S. Navy SEALs."
Like we should care, after the thousands killed by bin Laden?
Sorry, but this 'sob story' falls on deaf ears.
Her condition is worsening? Good. I hope her wounds go septic.
We all have decisions to make based on "right" or "wrong", regardless who we are or what conditions we're raised in. This woman was in a position to turn her husband in...and chose to remain by his side.
You can call that "culture" or "duty". I call it disgusting...especially who we're talking about here.
So maybe it says something about me that I can't find any sympathy or understanding...and maybe it says something worse about me that I wish her ill.
I'm an American. Considering what was done to my country, I can't muster much else for her.
John Williams,
She might have been trying to protect the 12-year old daughter in the room. We really don't know what happened, do we?
Pardon me, maga, but I have to disagree. Bin Laden was one of those rare people in history that managed to f**k everything up for everyone on the planet. And I mean everyone. 9/11 and the entire series of unfortunate events that followed rest squarely on his shoulders, and as such, everyone and everything connected to him should be erased from existence. There is no leeway to be soft with people like him. There are certain people who the world would have been better off without. Hitler, Stalin, Kim Il-Sung, Hirohito, bin Laden, etc. These are monsters whose genetic material has no business remaining in the gene pool. I don't think I'm alone when I say that I would've given every day from now until my death for a chance to be alone in a room with bin Laden, a .45, and no witnesses. This woman could've easily killed him but didn't take advantage of that opportunity... and in my opinion, that is more than enough reason for her to be removed.
maga,
We know she was Osama bin Ladin's wife. We know she knew who he was.
We also know she chose to stay by him and that she helped him hide...willingly.
It was within her power to attempt to find a safer place for that 12 year-old...even if it all boiled down to an attempt. It wasn't you or me who kept that kid around a targeted international criminal. It was all her.
And that, at least for me, is knowing enough.
@maga: There were thousands of news reports saying same thing what happen there from the SEALS report, like this news report below from 2011.
Two of bin Laden's wives had placed themselves in front of him. Amal al-Fatah, bin Laden's fifth wife, was screaming in Arabic. She motioned as if she were going to charge; the SEAL lowered his sights and shot her once, in the calf. Fearing that one or both women were wearing suicide jackets, he stepped forward, wrapped them in a bear hug, and drove them aside. He would almost certainly have been killed had they blown themselves up, but by blanketing them he would have absorbed some of the blast and potentially saved the two SEALs behind him
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle#ixzz1prLdGmBS
I think the President of the United States should go to her - sit by her side and publicly apologize to her for our US Navy Seals shooting her, give her a big hug and tell her we want to help her and everything will be Okay between the US and Al-Qaeda. Then give her some money too - that would be nice.
If we do that, the whole world will be a safer place and the Muslim extremists will suddenly quit trying to kill Americans!!!
Yep, that is definitely, without any doubt what-so-ever, what we should be doing!
I say kill the whole bunch.
jak-3696747
I say kill the whole bunch.
i say condoning the killing of innocents such as children makes you only as good as the terrorists who killed innocent people on 9/11. how can we be a morally superior group if we do the same things they do?
Exactly.
Americans forget too easily. It has been ten years since the atrocities of 9/11 but you'd think it never happened from the way that some people act. Perhaps it's a little more fresh in my mind because I witnessed it firsthand. I will never forget, and I will never forgive.
Jak - How can you ever be such a "hateful warmonger". Give her a hug, and a nice bouquet of flowers too. I believe FTD delivers in Pakistan too. In fact a quick Google search says "they sure do."
Send them today - you will feel better for it!!
If her injury is 'worsening' -- 10 months later. Really?? If she was shot in the leg and it wasn't treated properly and she has only now lost the use of her leg - Really? She would have been dead by now. The brother is full of sh*t making every excuse in the book.
The family was estranged from her after her marriage in 1999 or 2000 -- firstly, he doesn't know the year. But all of a sudden he's concerned now. The parents arranged the marriage for money or some method of enriching themselves as Bin Laden and him family member were rich so the parents made their deal with the devil to enrich themselves. If they sent her back to Yemen and she'll disappear under a rock, never to be found should they finally charge her. Yemen is a terrorist zone. Government/Laws in Yemen -- that's a joke. A number of the 'pirates' taking over ships I believe come out of Yemen and those areas.
Send the kids back then -- but sorry -- she along with the other wives, hid BinLaden for years and therefore should never see daylight outside a prison again.
I don't believe a single word this guy says, ESPECIALLY the part where he claims his family knew nothing about his sister being with Bin Laden.
Well then who "arranged" the marriage? Her parents, of course! And being that Bin Laden was very wealthy I'd believe they were probably very proud too!
I don't believe a word this creep says, and if he's looking for sympathy he sure has come to the wrong place!
This isn't as much a "story" as it is a pack of lies!
American Girl-724855
I don't believe a single word this guy says, ESPECIALLY the part where he claims his family knew nothing about his sister being with Bin Laden.
Well then who "arranged" the marriage?
"He explained that his family had been largely estranged from Amal after her marriage to bin Laden."
ehf-suaz - I detect juuust a hint of sarcasm ... cool!
mike277 - right on! those women are lucky they didn't get double-tapped on the forehead.
shartorius - right on as well!
maga - and she might have been going for a weapon, or trying to create a diversion so OBL could get to one of the many weapons he had stashed around the room.
she is lucky the seal only shot her in the leg....could have been worse for her! just saying.
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"But the Pakistani government says it has its reasons for holding the women."
Well DUH. They know how deeply the Pakistan government was involved with bin Laden. They know the Pakistan government was hiding bin Laden from execution. Of course the Pakistan government won't let them go. That entire country and what it's doing stinks like a pig.
Gouchybear
Just a "hint" of sarcasm. If I posted anything else, some people would probably get upset and my comments/posts would be collapsed because"their feelings were hurt" from reading an opposing view.
That seems to be the new "trend" on Newsvine, in my opinion anyway.
Maga, Eva Braun was innocent. She never had anything to do with the Nazis or the government in any official capacity. During the war she actually did not spend all that much time with Hitler. If Hitler would not listen to his generals and officials you think he would listen to a scatter brained broad.
The marriage may have been "arranged" but she had a choice. She was not forced but accepted the marriage proposal willingly. She had the option of refusing. Here's a few links about it but there are more. MSNBC featured an article about it some time ago, as well. She chose him as a husband and made the choice to accompany her mass murderer fugitive husband.
If you don't like these particular links, feel free to look it up yourself. There's plenty of info on the subject.
Excellent comparison, Chris.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/142095/20110506/bin-laden-wife-amal-al-sadah-fifth-5th-afghanistan-yemen-9-11.htm
http://www.newser.com/story/118423/osama-bin-laden-wife-amal-al-sadah-i-want-to-be-martyred-with-you.html
http://www.newser.com/story/118312/osama-bin-ladens-fifth-wife-amal-ahmed-al-sadah-how-he-found-perfect-match.html
Let the Pakis send her to the their good ole buddies, the Taliban. They'll fix her up real good and make it all better.
What I find sad is the number of people posting here who would happily do the same thing to those people that they condemned when it was done to us. If we sink to that level, we are no better than they are. The wife perhaps should be held, but the children should be released. They really had no choice in their parentage or their father's atrocities.
HOTTICKET-2304234 "Let the Pakis send her to the their good ole buddies, the Taliban"
Best idea yet.
Neither did George Bush, right?--I mean by killing another 1,5 million in that area, by taking down the governments, we have no more problem???-- No one can remember our aggression over there, they are going to be nice too us now right?
Political science education here needs to be reorganized in all aspects, like common sense first being taught!
This was an arranged marriage. Her family knew exactly who she was going to be marrying. They knowingly put her in harms way. Now they are upset and surprised as to how this ended? Maybe they should have chosen a different suitor...
For the wives, let the Pakis keep them. For the kids, send them to them to be adopted. There's no reason to hold children. If the kids are separated from the incarceration, then it's one less leveraging block on letting the women go. The women had to know what was going on, and so did their families. I only have sympathy for the children.
There was a story about this princess and how much she wanted to be bin ladens wife. Thats all a pack of lies she was in a arranged marriage. One thing surprises me is that Dubya isn't trying to do something for her. If Dubya was president he would parden her and maybe even have her brought to this country. Wasn't he and bin ladin buds? Yes I believe they were, thats why it took President Obama to change policy and make sure the sob was shot dead and fed to the fish. Still it would be nice seeing the tape of it.
Send the children to America and teach them to think for themselves. Maybe someday they can overcome the men who use them in the name of religion
Leave the issue of this woman aside for a moment. She may or may not have had a choice to marry, stay with, hide and abet her husband. We may never know about that. But what about their children? They never had any choice whatsoever. No choice who their parents were. No choice what their parents did. No choice where their parents took them. Whoever it was above who said to kill them all and all of those who upped or supported that grotesque remark ought to be ashamed of yourselves. The women may or may not deserve what they get for their life choices, but by condemning these children to the same prison and painting them with the same brush of associative guilt, a serious crime against humanity and decency is being committed. Those children had no chance holed up with their psycho father, but their situation has seen little improvement since, even though it could have been an opportunity to save their lives and futures. It would have been worth trying, instead of treating them like criminals for crimes they had no part in simply because of the sperm donor that produced them. The way things are now, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they grow up hating everyone and turn out no better than their father, even though that destiny could have been avoided.
I say choot them all, they will never think for themselves. Are you crazy, educate them and feed them so they can become terrorists just like daddy was? You got to be kidding, choot the little bastarts. Thats so inbedded into them already now that its not funny, nothing good will ever come from those children, they not children, they're little muslim devils ready to grow up and kill Americans.
Why should American citizens be worried about Osama Bin Laden's wife while she dying?
She is or was an abettor to the crimes of her husband. Just like Assad's wife--who claims to be the mastermind behind the slaughtering in Syria.
Who Cares?---Surprised OBL didn't kill her. Oh yes, he had 23 other wives as well--KORAN teachings. Abuse your wife and children and love those Honor Killings, as well as many thousands of innocent people who were killed by this Saudi Evil Jerk.
Sure enough - I post a little bit of sarcasm representing a different view ... and there ya go - people got their feelings "hurt", so they have my comments/posts collapsed ( see 1.2 )
I think that is SO DAMN FUNNY. LOLOL
Maybe I should start doing the same thing whenever people post an opinion that I don't agree with.
I'm actually truly ashamed of saying, choot them little bastarts, but if you don't think they are already brainwashed into thinking they need to avenge their fathers death they you must be crazy. Thats not a normal country where you can deprogram them and they become role model citizens of wherever they live. They are so brainwashed already its not even funny. Its definetly wrong for me to say choot them but I said that because they aren't real children. I'm sorry to say somehting so cruel but I'm more sorry for the people that lost their parents and relatives on 9/11. Saying that about any other children anywhere on this earth would be wrong, these kids are born and breed terrorists.
The children have already been fed the mythology. The sad truth is they are a potential danger. As for the wife, to hell with her.
An "arranged marriage" doesn't mean what Americans think it means. All marriages in that culture are "arranged." Only a family who didn't care for their daughter at all would fail to arrange her marriage. While some arrangements are unfortunate, or even disgusting, most are congenial. In most cases, the girl can refuse, but few do. That's because in that culture, girls believe their parents know what is best for them.
It's a different world with different needs and different expectations.
This past winter MSN had an article about how honored her family was that bin ladin wanted her to be his wife. I believe she was a little young at the time but she wanted so much to be his wife because of him being a leader there and a terrorists. Thats all a bunch of bull crap still steaming that they didn't know or whatever he's saying now. Give me a break, she was a terrorists just like her hubby was and she was honored to be his wife and a terrorist as the children are too. Her family is honored that they were terrorists. They are all so very proud of her and the children to serve the karan and to kill Americans. What is wrong with you people thinking the children are little innocent angels? Your starting to think just like Dubya now.
I can't even believe that people in this country think that the children should be free now? What is wrong with you people, do you think thats like finding a lost puppy in the streets, oh yeah lets take it in and give it a home? These kids are devils. They will grow up to kill Americans to avenge their fathers death. Don't you people remember what happened her on 9/11/2001 and also the 9/11/2000 attack on Fort Pierce. Wake up people, smell the coffee. Its no wonder you vote idiots like Dubya into office two times. I'm scared to think who your going to vote for this Nov. President Obama/ Joe Biden in 2012.
It's likely the girl and the other widows will bear the brunt of the charges and blame for *everything*. It's just the way the men in charge to business over there. The husband of the widows was a murderer of epic proportions. Their are getting what they signed up for in my opinion. If it was an arranged thing I doubt she had a problem with it upon meeting her husband considering what a hero the fools of the ME thought OBL to be.
What the hell is a choot?
i figure it was a story a bout...a sick goat...billie sure does miss him...and them camel toes...he's keeping and eye out for ya'...choot him lizabeth...choot him...
I suspect that the Pakistani ISI are afraid that under Western interrogation the widow will freely BLAB about just who in the government were "in the know" about OBL's presence in the country. So, of course, they are going to keep her under wraps until she accidentally dies or magically jumps out of a window and falls under a bus.
how come they collapse the coolest threads on the comments...choot'em elizabeth...choot that gator liz...
I hate what you're saying, Joe. But I agree with you. I don't believe those children can fail to be contaminated, and I believe one or more of them will grow up to carry on.
Why on earth do some people want Pakistan to release bin Laden's wife and children to the Taliban?
Like bin Laden, the so-called talibs are muharibun who advocate the murder of innocents and the destruction of America and all we hold dear.
Who's side are you on?
Arranged Marrigage. Brainwashed. I hope she can get help, but chances are she will never be quite right.
"They will carry on." The definition of "future threat to society".
Chris, however much one may abhor Osama bin Laden, his life and his works, his wife does not automatically share his guilt. The same is true of Eva Braun in relation to Adolf Hitler.
Unless one can demonstrate these woman materially aided the careers of their husbands (or lovers), then they are no more at fault than would be the wife of Al Capone.
They should let her go, and she should be accorded normal medical treatment for her wounds.
dman - it's called guilt by association. You can argue that it's a logical fallacy all you want, but if you're married to a man who killed thousands of innocent civilians and don't do a damn thing about it, you're as big a piece of sh-t as he is and deserve the same fate.
I'll file this right under, "Who gives a s$%^"?
Agreed. Her brother and the rest of the family have been estranged from her since her marriage to bin laden and now he is concerned about her health. They were surprised that she was with him and surprised that she was in Pakistan. How can you be "surprised" if you don't care enough to stay in contact?
Agreed. "Prisoner's condition worsens in Pakistani custody" is not news. "Prisoner's condition improves in Pakistani custody" would be news.
the thinker - how do you know that is was the brother and the rest of the family who "don't care enough to stay in contact"? How do you know it wasn't bin laden who made the choice that his wives should cut off all contact with their families. Not saying I trust anything this guy has to say, but I'd be willing to bet that the wives families had no choice in whether or not they saw their daughters.
Thats all a bunch of bull crappolla, they weren't in contact with her. What a hot steaming crap of lies that one is. This little muslim princess gave her all to bin ladin right in front of her family, thats how much she wanted to be with the bastart. She did things with him that aren't all that muslim like for them idiots. What a crock she was forced into the marriage. I say shot this guy right in front of her and her family for trying to cram a pack of lies down our throats. I bet Dubya must be morning her health and maybe making some calls to see if he can't do something for her. Thats jackoff might even be sending her care packages already even before this story came out. Choot them all, CHOOT THEM already.
Osama bin Laden didn't care. He killed innocent women and children all the time, and so did the rest of his muharibun, and the psuedo-talibs who harbored them.
The soil in Afghanistan, New York, Pennsylvannia, Kenya, Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, Mozambique and elsewhere cries out with the blood of innocent women and children who were deliberately and willfully TARGETED by bin Laden's murderous thugs, and God hears those cries.
Children are not to blame, but there are serious questions as to the degree that Zakaria al-Sadah was harboring or abetting a mass murderer.
Turning innocent children over to people who arranged a marriage for a mass murderer would be a grave injustice.
Bad for the children, and bad for the world.
It must never happen.
give the family a goat ...get a wife program...they have got to up grade the livestock...dang goats look much more cute...and ain't got near the hair on it's legs...
I think our illustrious narcissistic president should go down to Pakistan, without security of any kind, and bow and appologize in person.
Your name sure does fit you. Was Doofus already taken?
Perhaps they want to resell her. Some whack-o would pay good money for one of Bin Laden's used pieces.
There are many that feel that they should stay in jail, but I think I have a more interesting solution. Why doesn't the US adopt them, bring them here, teach them, give them a college education, and westernize them. Now that would be an interesting anecdote to the memory of Osama.
And eventually, if we can train them to forget who their father was, we can enlist them to go fight Al-queda.
WHO CARES!
Couldn't agree more Witchking!!!!!
With the man she married and all the innocent people that have been killed by this family, why should I even care about this bytch. Let her die and be rid of her. Toss her azz in the ocean as well. No don't dump it in the ocean. That's pollution. Toss her in a landfill or cremate her sorry azz.
As for the concerned brother. I'm wondering how much money she has given him over the years, and how much involvement he is in these terrorist attacks. Lock this pos up and put him on trial as well.
No sympathy going to come from me for these people. They all need to be removed like the cancer they all are to the people of the world.
I file this under who gives a *%#* about what you give a *%#* about.
Wow. It really blows one's mind to see the compassion, understanding, judgement and hate that reigns supreme in this country. I am floored by all the folk who know exactly what happened, assume they know the facts, are so ready to condemn and murder people they don't know and who have personally done them no harm.
It isn't just this case, our country is ready to condemn anyone who has been accused of anything, whether they know the circumstances or not. They buy into slanted media half-truths, guesstimates, and impressions without qualifications and render their "informed judgement".
The wife and children of that person are not the man that ordered the murder of innocents. The wife was placed in an arranged marriage with bin Laden at the age of 17, had spent a lifetime of living with the knowledge that as a woman she was evil and oppressed since that is the ethos of that country and that religion, the children are children, for God's sake.
The statement "What goes around, comes around." isn't just a neat idea, it happens. May none of you have to face the same judgement and hatred from your society when you need forgiveness and mercy. Sooner or later we all do.
Thanks for posting gramapoetmn. "May none of you have to face the same judgement and hatred", cause there sure is a lot of it in the United States. And it doesn't even have to be about 9/11.
Even in 21st century, if you want fascinating stories fit for seventh century desert days, some of the news reports from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and other Sunni nations are worth it!
In a culture of terrorism, all levels and ages of the society are participants. That being said, I would consider the wives and children to be of potential threat to the rest of the world avenging a kinsman....Avenging kinsman does not necessarily involve a quotient of love or respect, but rather familial ties. Women are identified in Arab culture by family ties, and have no true identity of their own. They are somebody's daughter, somebody's sister, somebody's wife, or somebody's mother/grandmother/aunt....their loyalty is dicitated by this rather than personal emotions. I would feel that no amount of counter culture conditioning could completely replace this, and as such, they probably need to remain in some sort of custody, but if they are being treated like the Gitmo prisoners, then I have really no concern, as their well-being is more than adequately looked after.
Pakistan is not known for its shining medical care. You may rest assured that this woman has not received any more attention to her wound than a pet goat would receive, considering the Muslim way of treating women.
Actually, the goat would get better treatment.
Agreed. But again, who really cares? Seriously... I don't care about her or the kids. I know that sounds heartless and I'll probably get this comment collapsed, but I don't don't care about anyone even remotely associated with Osama... little Osama Jr will grow up to be a pissed off adult who continues their "daddy's" ways...kill them all and let God/Allah sort them out.
"We didn't know that our sister was with him at the time," he said. "My mother, my father, my whole family was surprised that this had happened and she was actually there."
They did not know before what she was doing or with whom she was sleeping!
Now why are they bothered?
Is there an address ? So many of us want to send flowers ...........................................
Right on!!
Yeah, a funeral wreath.
LMAO!
poor woman ...send her family a goat...
As pork will cure them faster and make them all stronger, I would like to send pork there!
The kids should be let go. Innocent victims of a psychotic zealot.
The wife? Who knows. Can't trust what the Pakistani's say.
I have to agree with you here.
I don't know how I want to feel about the wife's story. Maybe what the brother is saying is legit, but that's also probably not the case. I don't know and I don't care.
But the children, I think they should be let go. They deserve better, as young as they are...
Problem is these kids are going to grow up in a primitive environment that promotes human sacrifice for the reason of the day to kill anyone of the day and receive virgins in heaven. And their adults, scholars, and leaders all believe this! This is the only religion other than serial murderers that think this way. We in America try to protect these so called Innocent people with our military only to create more hate towards America. You cannot reform a maggot to be a vegetarian. They will always prefer rotting carcus. Do we really believe that a son of Bin Laden will grow up to have Dr. Martin Luther Kings dream? Or his daughters carry on for Mother Theresa? Get real. Vegas line is they will blow someone or something up!
You are forgetting that Bin Ladden is from the upper classes of Saudi society and that this family would also be from the upper classes of Yemeni society. Her family would very likely take the children and do very well by them. She is not Bin Laddens Afghan Warlord wife. The children should be freed to return with the brother to Yemen. Secretary Clinton should prevail on the Pakistanis Foreign Minister to quietly release the sister to US custody where she can be given proper medical care in a US medical facility, her life saved, and quietly reunited with her family in Yemen. Just like the figures of organized crime, professional and home life are often very segregated. The Osama she and her children knew is not the one the rest of us knew. In this instance would chose compassion over retribution. It would do a great deal for our public image to be seen as showing greater compassion for innocents than our enemies.
Nice to know that Pakis have a judicial system too!
Get a copy of the charges and use them in the US, Britain, European and other non-Muslim nations to kick out all Paki liabilities!
Execute them all. There's no reason to leave anyone connected to him alive.
You would execute a three-year-old???
Yes. They have an unfortunate tendency to do things like grow up and want to avenge their father.
Why Chris,
Some say that what really triggered Bush's invasion of Iraq was George W trying to avenge the attempted assassination plot on his father? Wow, and George was well into his forties, wasn't he?
maga, I have a feeling you're trying to argue with me, but you're only proving my point.
Chris - you're right. W should have been executed at 3. Would have erased so many current problems.
Did sound like that, didn't it. I was trying to say that we point the finger at everyone else but don't take a look in our own backyard.
Maybe if we help free the wife and even give her medical care her children will see that we are a compassionate nation - unlike your position.
maga--do you make a habit of helping people that are hell bent on destroying you?
f*** them all
Are you willing to bet the lives of your fellow citizens on that?
sebrad,
I've tolerated the Republican Party for years....and they seem hell bent on destroying the middle class (me).
Send them to Israel. Raise them as Jews.
And Maga - the Middle Class does a good number on itself. No political party forces tens of millions to borrow more than they make. The fact that the Republicans aren't willing to make this problem, generated by personal irresponsibility, just go away, isn't a reason to get all butthurt.
I can't believe we're even debating whether to execute a 3 year old child. Every day, the hate people get wackier and wackier.
Deangelo - I'm not a "hate person" (by that I assume you mean Tea Party Republican racist morons). I'm just a person who knows that there are enemies in this world who deserve no quarter. I'm a liberal and an Obama supporter... but Osama bin Laden and everyone related to him can go f**k themselves. I would not shed a single tear if his children were executed.
Chris, you're not a "hate person", yet you want to execute an innocent child? I think you're insane.
Anyone who promotes the death of a child needs to be shipped to mars away from all humanity, immediately.
Chris! I hear Ashton Kutcher is on his way maybe you can hitch a ride with him!
I'm also wondering what your dad did to you to make you a sadist.
You sound as bad as Bin Ladden himself. Simply NUTS!!!
Peace!
CHRIS.... i am the first too say shoot the enmey before they shoot you...but i gotta draw the line on kids. thats just not RIGHT!
Typical Leftist website. Someone says something bad about George W. Bush and it's ok. I say something bad about Obama and the "community" collapses my comment.
Way to go Lefties you are living up (or down) to your expectations. Instead of debating an issue you shout down (or in this case shut down) the opposing view. You truly do not believe in Free Speech for someone other than yourself. But then I would expect nothing less from this Socialist website.
Question for all of you: How's all that Hopey Changey working for you? Does your food cost less? How about the price of gasoline? Or the price of your health benefits at work?
Have a Blessed Day!
Marine 55
It’s just common sense..... Right! Now let’s flip it and say.. That because Chris is has a twisted way if thinking we should make his Kids pay for it.
It just sounds crazy doesn’t it?
man...riding with Ashton Kutcher would be worst than any death penalty!!!!!
Arney...
Baaaahhaa ....I was also kinda hoping there would be room for Demi
Anyone who thinks that the whole lot of them should be released has lost their mind. Imagine what kind of nonsense the mother is teaching them right now as it is. Obviously if she is stepping in to defend her husband, she obviously is going to harbor some level of animosity toward the US. And what better way to avenge her beloved husband than to have her kids become martyr's for the cause?
Get a grip folks, this isn't the thought process here in America, but it is a legitimate issue in the Middle East and is considered a norm. They martyr themselves for damn near anything so long as they believe it serves a purpose, even if it doesn't. I, for one, find it as a real dilemma.
In the US, we try to find compassion, and in our society they wouldn't be locked up, they would be in the hands of DSS. Maybe they'd have a chance at reform with some sort of program similar, but to allow them to be free? Someone is going to get a hold of them, knowing who they are and who their father was, and convert them to be leaders amongst the Al Qaeda. It's real. Face it.
let the kids go for the love of god im a christan catholic its not right to blame kids for the sins of there father this only serves to demonise the west
6.12 deleted, Gouchybear retroactively deathwishing the POTUS and FLOTUS. Don't do that, folks. Begets death threats. Banned.
"Everyone knows that women and children – they're innocent,"
ok, i'll grant you the kids are "innocent", technically. but the "wife" should absolutely stay in prison and rot.
but let's not lose track of these kids...my $ says they will have an ax to grind against US down the road at some point
Exactly. So get rid of 'em. Might not be PC, but whatever... that's how business was done in the old days and it solved a lot of problems before they started.
an ounce of prevention goes a long way...
Sounds like the old time calvery saying that nits make lice..........
gina--???
an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of manure. killing someone for something they might do in the future is opening the door for serious problems. how did our last "preemptive strike" turnout?
really hatr--then why do we have prisons?
i'll help you with the answer: for punishment, AND to keep the rest of us safe from a$$holes that have the potential to cause future harm to others
the term is an ounce of a vaccine is worth a pound of a cure meaning we would prefer not to have to "respond" to incidents when we can prevent them from happening in the beginning. Yea the wife didn't get shot for no reason but it could as well been Stockholm's syndrome. People should be prosecuted for their crimes but dying in prison due to improper medical attention is unacceptable no matter the vengeance/revenge based reason. Some of you sound like you would fit right in over in the middle east
sebrad
really hatr--then why do we have prisons?
i'll help you with the answer: for punishment, AND to keep the rest of us safe from a$$holes that have the potential to cause future harm to others
big difference is those people have already done something.
aiding and abetting the most wanted fugitive on the planet isn't "doing something"???
ok...
how did a 3 year old aid and abet anyone?
johngis--thanks for the lesson on the proper use of cliches...if there is such a thing
she is in a paki prison, right? never said i think we in the US should employ the same tactics they are using, but i aint complaining about it either. for the most part, those people are whacked, but i have to give credit where credit is due: they treat criminals like criminals deserve to be treated. the rest of their stone age nonsense i can do without, but i like the fact that if you get caught stealing in some of those places they cut your hand off as punishment.
hatr--your reading comprehension must be off. i said "keep an eye" on the devil spawn because in 10-20 yrs they may be the 2nd generation of AQ. the mother should rot
and my first reply was both to you and to chris's
"Exactly. So get rid of 'em. Might not be PC, but whatever... that's how business was done in the old days and it solved a lot of problems before they started."
A lot of people have the mentality that if it's not white, American and isn't their kid, kill them.
A lot of these people who have this mentality also shouldn't be having kids of their own.
She and her brood of mini terrorists should never see the light of day! How psychotic do you have to be when you marry and remain married to Osama Bin Laden?? There when he was planning killing thousands of innocent people maybe even helping him out. She is as guilty as he is. That cow needs to locked away for good.
women don't have very much power in that world. she probably had even less and more people watching her every move. staying married to him probably was as much her decision as the marriage itself was.
I'm sure she had more than one opportunity to get the hell away from him.. Also why do you think she got shot in the first place? im sure she wasn't just an innocent bystander. She is probably as brainwashed as the rest of his stupid entourage. She cannot be set free. It would only be a matter of time before she resumed her jihad. Ignorance is no excuse! LOCK HER UP
yeah, cause it's not like they force their women to always be accompanied or anything. it's not like if she was caught trying to escape that they would kill her, or maim(sp?) her, or subject her to some other harsh form of punishment.
Let's not forget that the first wife had only recently joined them and upset the family applecart. So, it is possible for women to have some notion of freedom of movement. The first wife could have made the choice not to be there with him.
I don't know what should be done with those children, but their mothers - let them rot in some Pakistani prison for all eternity.
did it say that the firs wife traveled alone to join him? if not, there goes that theory.
tidubai--would you strap a set of bombs to a kid and then blow him up in a crowded marketplace?
if they don't care about their kids, why should we?
Because you're not insane like they are...or are you?
not insane...just a realist. we can't save the world, and we shouldn't even try to save anyone that is committed to our destruction and that are willing to use their own children as martyrs to do it.
saving people who want to kill you IS absolutely insane though...
the problem with that thinking is the kid doesn't want to kill you nor do they themselves want to die.
Could you really take a gun and shoot a 3 year old? If you think it is such a good idea and have the stomach for it, you should volunteer.
Because we are not like them, hopefully we are more human then those we fight. Interesting how US citizen ae to willing to come down the ladder to be exactly what we are fighting, nothing more then terrorists.
If you recall, the entire Czars family was summarily lined up and shot, women and children included, and their actions were certainly alot less violent than those of OSB and Al Queida. They were caught up in a cultural shift from a monarchy system to communism....the violence swirling around them, but not necessarily orchestrated by them. People seemed to have no problems about killing the children, even the ones where were frail and deathly ill to begin with.
I think most people agree that the assasination of the Romanov family was wrong.
Wow, you people need to read up on the cultural environment for women in the Middle East - in some countries it's not so 'free'. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and a two-week grace period to educate yourself.
what specifically are you hinting at maga?
inuendo or inside jokes don't work too well on online blogs...
Sebrad,
I'm 'hinting' at the fact that while most of these posts are calling for her 'blood' (and in some cases her children's) maybe we should try to understand the suppressive society that she was/is living in. She had no say, no freedom, she was not like those that choose to follow Bin Laden - she was bound to him by an arranged marriage. We have to stop thinking of women from that area in light of how a woman lives in the United States. In some countries a woman can be put to death by stoning by a mere accusation by her husband - here we just go with divorce.
that's better--she knew who he was, and by not going to "authorities" allowed ubl to continue his nonsense, and as a result, more people (americans included) died. she had a decision to make, and she made the wrong one....
that's why i'm comfortable letting her rot, and probably a lot of other people are comfortable with that as well...
how could she go to the "authorities"?? she probably wasn't even allowed to leave the compound. your heart is two sizes too small, sebrad.
ap--i don't have ANY heart for people that are part of or support terrorism against America, period. she may well be an unfortunate pawn in this game just like the 3,000 innocent people that died on 9.11.
by my count, we still have some catching up to do with them to be "even"...and she is by no means "innocent"
are you American? you know they have made their mission clear to eradicate us from the planet, right? if it's going to be US or them...i'll take US. the rest are merely "enemy combatants"
oh, and ap: is this mrs ubl doing anything to help us ultimately destroy AQ or others that want to blow us up? guaranteed she knows a lot and isn't saying anything
you are either with us or against us...and against us includes not sharing knowledge that will help us wipe them out
Spoken like a true Neanderthal, sebrad.
It's people like you who make the world such a grim, dreadful place to live in.
sebrad,
I am an American - and don't give me any of that B.S. about 'your either with us or against us...' - this nation was founded by civil/uncivil discourse and all opinions/views should be decently tolerated - whether they fall under your listing of what constitutes an American or what doesn't.
you're wasting your time on sean. proof is that he thinks osama bin laden's initials are Ubl.
The first wife had not been living with Bin Laden for quite a while, and turned up at the compound shortly before the raid. So, there must be SOME freedom of movement.
Her family viewed her not much differently than cattle to be traded for favors or money that would benefit the family, association with a personage of power and wealth...the children would not have been treated a great deal differently, but how they could be strategically applied to create alliances of political or financial natures. Suddenly they are all concerned about her well-being, when they essentially sold her for their own ends. They were "estranged" with little contact (Did OSB not live up to his end of the marriage contract, or did her family violate the alliance in some way)....the fact that she was not a constant companion and not travelling with him everywhere and suddenly was able to be with him does indicate a certain amount of freedom on her part, at least in relation to the other wives that we are not hearing about. Her status as a favorite is probably reaffirmed, and would also mean that she had to have some commonality in viewpoint with the man, a measure of trust from him, and a desire to be with him depsite knowing that he was internationally hunted for crimes against other peoples. Dragging her children along with her probably implies that she didn't feel that they would be safe amongst the other children and wives in her absence, which means that her favored status might well not contribute to family harmony and safety for her children if the threat of OSB were to be removed. In the context of the situation, she is very much like a Mata Hari....no longer the 17 year old girl sold into marriage, but somebody who had approximately a decade to learn what was really going on. People talk, and women especially will confide on a more personal level....she was one of 23 wives, therefore would have to have been deaf, dumb, and blind to not know the true nature of her husband or his potential for violence.
She was brainwashed. She is going to be prosecuted for sheltering a fugitive. I think that that is a valid sentence. I think nothing more or less is due her.
Sadly, Maga, these people don't want to be educated. "She was brainwashed" is a reason to prosecute her???????? What genius. In that case, every victim that suffers from brainwashing should be prosecuted along with the criminal that put them through agony to accomplish that brainwashing.
These hate-filled rantings are disgusting. You know nothing about "her" or "her children" - you assume that in your genius you can deny women and children the right to a defense because her arranged husband did something to us. It is darned good thing that we don't apply that same reasoning to murders in this country. I haven't seen us sink to the bottom of the barrel by executing or imprisoning women or children of the murderers in our society. Thank God!!
Your rants are no better that the people you are ranting against. Your hatred won't bring back the victims of 9/11 - they just reduce you to the level of bin Laden - congratulations.
Excuse me? I'm on your side. I am not calling for her blood, like other posters here. Brainwashed cult members are punished for their criminal actions, and I think that is fair. She never hurt anyone, but she did shelter a fugitive. I wish we could give her a pass because she didn't know what she was doing, or she was fearful for her life, but that's not really the way things work; especially not in Pakistan.
The only reason to bury the women in a bureaucratic maze would be if there were certain 'embarrassing' things they knew about the Pakistani govt.
"I always lied to them, whenever they asked me to stay," he said. "I would lie and say, 'Next time we'll go to the park,' 'Next time we'll go outside.' I keep telling them they're going to come back home soon."
There is a shock! Osama's brother in law is a self-confessed liar. Why beleive anything else he says?
Dumbest thing I've ever seen in the comments. He's trying to keep their spirits up - they should be released with their mother.
Not saying she's guilty of anything but did she try to leave? I also wouldn't trust anything Pakistan says
So you all are saying that the children are responsible for the sins of their father? That a woman who was married in an arrangement not of her choice, in a society where she has no rights or ability to disobey, shouldn't receive some compassion? The best way to turn them into terrorists is to continue treating them this way. Let them go home to her family.
Does she get her 72 studs when she goes, well wherever they go?
no. depending on which theory you go by she won't get them because
a)she wasn't a true jihadist
b)she wasn't martyred
c)she's not a man
I'm surprised Pakistan doesn't treat her and her kin like war heroes.
Wow...the heartlessness of some of these comments is pretty astonishing. Yes, I'm sure this young woman could have escaped her marriage...in a coffin, maybe. And I'm equally sure the children will grow up to be terrorists just like their father...because they see how the western world treats innocent women and children. Way to go, folks. No moral high road for you, I see.
was anyone in your family killed by muslim extremists? i'm guessing no...
heartlessness is merely being returned in the manner in which it was delivered to us.
"how the western world treats innocent women and children"????--get a grip. she probably got traded for four goats and a chicken--and you slam westerners in their treatment of women? wow!
so you condone killing innocent people who never harmed you. you're about on par with the terrorists who perpetrated 9/11. oh, but it's ok when we do it, right?
Sorry no compassion for Bin Laden's favorite wife. Middle Eastern women are as ignorant as the men who treat them like dirt. Furthermore i don't pity them for being victims of a system they help to reinforce.
Your notions toward this woman and other like her are naive. Women in her position are generally as cruel and psychotic as their male counterparts..take a look at Asad's wife--the real dictator.
Mrs.Osama Bin Laden a/k/a Amal Ahmad Abdul Fattah- the sister of Mr. Zakarya Ahmad Abu Alftah is being held on immigration violations along with her children. The case was heard yesterday in Islamabad High Court and she has got a lawyer Muhammad Aamir Khalil who is petitioning the Court under different laws (Foreigner Act 1946 section 14 and 13,and under section 212,419,and 109 PPC and for quashment of cases in FIS's special unit. This case was adjourned yesterday (3/21) for today 3/22 for the High Court to hear the Defense,Interior,ISI et al. She is not being mistreated -she has legal counsel and a very short time to get her hearing to the High Court (it would take a long time to get your case into US Suprerme Court). Read it all http://www.thenews.pk.com/article-411036-Osamas-brother-in-law-can-meet-sister. In case people are wondering why Amal would stay with OBL- it was an arranged Yemeni marriage- the only crime she has charged is coming and living in Pakistan illegally.
Sebrad: Thoughts come to mind after reading your blogs and answers: 1) If we go with an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth philosophy the world will be full of blind toothless people. I believe that was said by someone great (not me); 2) The woman should at least be seen by someone medically speaking and taken care of that way. Probably should not be released. But then there are her children, some of whom are quite young. I believe you would have them all killed. I'm not sure if I could sleep at night with that judgement. They PROBABLY will grow up to get revenge is not much of a reason to warrant death. I am very glad I don't live around you because if you would kill these people you will kill anyone you judge to be not 'useful' to you in your world.
diana, maga, hater and the rest of you confused types: it's fine that your perspective is all wrong, really, it is. if you want to entertain the concept of this black cloud known as AQ hanging over your head for the balance of your existence, that's YOUR call, but i'm done trying to change your perspective.
i personally am not interested in the thought of AQ being allowed to survive on any level. great, we cut off the head and dropped it in the ocean, but AQ is obviously not dead yet, as France can tell you today. according to your perspectives, we should NOT do everything we can to crush them because it is "mean" or "vengeful".
the threat remains real. you all seriously just seem to be waiting for the next set of hijacked planes to crash into something on US soil. we were attacked---do you want it to happen again? i would think not, but conversely, you don't want to be perceived as "mean" in solving the problem. how would you clowns suggest we solve the problem? talking? doesn't work. threats? dont work.
how will you feel if two years from now we have another 9.11? my guess is angry and sad. wouldn't it be terrible to think that it could've been stopped if we had just done what needed to be done to deal with them?
kind of like the last time....
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you. Soon you will join the Dark Side.
Sound familiar Ana- I mean sebrad?
sebrad, there will never be an end to terrorism. thinking so is misguided as there has always been terrorism. anytime the government declares war on something, it's a war that will never be won. war on poverty? yeah, not going well. war on drugs? there's another headscratcher. war on terrorism? every terrorist you kill, another will pop up.
if you change how you live morally and how you deal with others then they win cause that's what they want, for you to act differently out of fear(or terror) of something happening. they have already won, look at all the changes we put up with and freedoms that have been taken since 9/11. just getting on a plane is 100x mor eof a hassle than it used to be. the patriot act allowing people's rights to be trampled and warrantless wiretapping on citizens all in the name of safety from what? terrorism.
so doing nothing or doing it half assed is the answer, according to you. you must be quite the employee...maybe next month they'll move you up to "french fry guy"
insulting me just shows me how good of a debater you are. you taking what you did away from what i said shows that you're not worth my time.
hater--i understood your point fine, considered it incorrect, and rebutted, just like the last half dozen of your posts. that in fact is the nature of debate, now isn't it? you're the one that made the ridiculous statement "why bother, we're never going to win...they've already won"
now you have plenty of time available for you and your like minded cupcakes to debate the color blue or come to other useless and incorrect conclusions about the state of affairs on this planet. try not to get burned by the hot oil from the fry daddy...
you sure seem to know alot about the restaurant business, at least the fast food part.
You folks are truly heartless, vindictive, and without a shred of morality or humanity.
The sins of the father should not be applied to the children or spouse. She wasn't even married to bin Laden at the time of the WTC. She had nothing to do with 9/11. She's some poor piece of property that's likely been treated like sheet her whole life. She is a danger to no one, and the only reason Pakistan is holding her is to save face after we killed bin Laden in their incompetent back yard.
The children and wife should be released immediately and returned to her family in Yemen. They should DEFINITELY receive medical attention.
Ok...first time doing this...so don't blast me too hard!
My political background - I"m a republican, voted for Bush twice, so for this thread I'm probably considered part of the "unclean and ignorant"...
My views: I will never forget 9/11. None of us should. Pure evil, and that evil continues to this day.
AQ is a threat to our way of life - they have sworn to wipe us off the planet. That said, I think our government has done a fine job of keeping us protected from another strike. Will they be 100% effective, God only knows (or Alah for our Muslim friends...) Unfortunately it only takes 1 successful attack to wreak havoc and death on our citizens. We must maintain our diligence and continue the fight against the radical Islamics.
Our fight isn't with Islam, it is with RADICAL Islam. There is a huge difference there people, please don't lose sight of that.
I have read some posts regarding killing women and children - is that the American way? Does that give us the moral high ground? Doesn't that make us like the enemy we dispise? Who wins? Look, I don't give a rats behind about OBL's favorite wife. She knew who she married, she knew what kind of evil he represented and had brought forth to our country. If she spends the rest of her life in prison (or worse...Pakistan!) so be it. I won't lose sleep. But to say let's kill the kids because they might grow up and seek vengence? Come on people, that is just plain old evil and not representative of our great country.
The situation in the Middle East is untenable, has been for generations. I'm not sure there is a way to find peace in that environment. The good old US of A isn't going to solve their problems, no matter how much aid (read Big Bucks!) and American blood is spilled there. My Dad was retired Air Force, I respect and admire our military personnel - always will, but there is no end game and just a bunch of politicians calling the shots in both Iraq and Iran. We all know how well that worked in Southeast Asia.
I would prefer to bring our military home (save some serious money) and then use our resources to continue the fight against the enemy that has sworn our bring about our demise - hunt them down anywhere in the world and introduce them to the grim reaper.
One other thought - there was a time when tolerance and compromise were considered good things in this country. Respect for others thoughts and voices - even when we don't agree with them. It seems to me we have lost that. The extreme Right Wing of my party and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party is ruining this country. They seem to have forgotten the rest of us - and we should do whatever we can to get both political parties to move back to the center!
priorlakedude-
Best post here so far.
Well put, priorlakedude! Perhaps what we need is a third party....
priorlakedude-which i could vote you up again!
In my personal opinion, and the opinion of a lot of other posters here, there is absolutely no reason to allow any of the persons who were found in that compound the opportunity of freedom. I can just see the headlines if this were to happen: Wife of Bin Laden found to be behind detonation of suitcase nuke. This suitcase bomb was determined to be under baby Bin Laden in its stroller\pram. 3 Million dead as a result. So again I say in my personal opinion, every person found alive in that compound deserves to be kept confined in the deepest, darkest, and nastiest prison in the world, to guarantee the safety of the rest of the world because this family will, again in my opinion, retaliate for the killing of their beloved Pa Pa.
priorlakedude ,,,,,, for president
Amen! Thank you for being a grown up... No, thank you for being a human being.
Some of you are horrifying. These children, in particular, share no guilt. And you cannot try the millions and millions of Muslim people for the sins of a relatively few zealots. That's like holding all Catholics accountable for the pedophile priests or all Christians accountable for the KKK.
I was wondering, how often do you think this woman thinks about all the people her husband was responsible for killing? Karma is areal thing and hers just hit.
Your comparison is deeply flawed, it is not just a "few zealots". Millions of Muslims willingly embrace Sharia law and eagerly answer the call of jihad; no one endorses pedophile priests.
"Millions of Muslims willingly embrace Sharia law and eagerly answer the call of jihad"...
First of all, where do you get such an idea? I know lots of Muslims, and none of them are in favor of Sharia law. Second, how does that justify punishing women and children who had no choice about their involvement? The vengefulness of some commenters here only serves to perpetuate the violence. Is that what you want? Or do you just not know right from wrong? Saying "They did it, so we can do it" has NEVER been a good excuse for bad behavior.
"Millions of Muslims willingly embrace Sharia law and eagerly answer the call of jihad"...
First of all, where do you get such an idea?
Here's where we get "such an idea"...
#1. World population statistics "estimate there are about 1.5 BILLION Muslims around the world." A person may be acquainted with "lots of Muslims, but understanding 1.5 Billion is an astronomically different matter.
#2. Let's "assume for the sake of discussion" that at least 90% of those 1.5 Billion Muslims truly are peace loving, kind, gently and do NOT support "radical, suicidal Muslim ideology or Sharia Law"? This number would suggest that 90% of the Muslims in Muslim countries do NOT subscribe to "their own laws"... just for the sake of discussion? I believe the penalty for "not following Sharia Law in ANY Muslim country is DEATH.
Still, "just for the sake of discussion" here's the problem and a few points to help "grasp the numbers":
#3. How much is 10% X 1.5 Billion? = 150 Million... or, if that is too high...
#4. How much is only 5% X 1.5 Billion? = 75 Million... or, let's go even lower...
#5. How much is only 1% of 1.5 Billion? = 15 Million
These are not difficult numbers to consider.
No, personally, I am absolutely certain that the "overwhelming majority of Muslims definitely desire as much peace and harmony as most other people do.
Unfortunately, as the above numbers clearly show, it is "NOT the overwhelming majority that anyone needs to be concerned with"... but we can and must be concerned with the 1%, the 5%, the 10% or "whatever those numbers RISE up to inside and outside of Muslim countries around the world".
In Muslim countries "you can be Guaranteed the overwhelming majority DO support Sharia Law", so the 1%, 5% and 10% numbers I used only highlight what the world is facing when discussing "Sharia Law".
Europe is "over-run with debates among their courts and their legal scholars over use or acceptance of Sharia Law.
We have had several instances where Muslim fathers and husbands (in America) have murdered their wife and/or daughters, based on the "Quran's instructions regarding honor killings" and THAT is Sharia Law and THAT is right here in the good old USA?
Bottom Line: Yes, no matter how it is looked at, but from "sheer numbers alone", of course Millions and Millions of Muslims have complete faith in "anything any hate-filled, radical, suicidal, jihadist lunatics has to say or do including 'Sharia Law'.
As far as any of those wives are concerned, "they made THEIR bed and now they get to sleep in it?"
Thank you, Speedy. Now, please address my SECOND point. If you can or care to.
Speedy, when those male relatives commit murder here, they go to jail. Sharia doesn't absolve them under our legal system, and never will. Our constitution doesn't allow for religious law.
How many Christian women are beaten and murdered every year by male husbands/boyfriends? The Bible says that women are to be obedient to their husbands both it the new and old testaments. That is not the law of this country, either.
She should at least receive medical care. My money says unless she does, she will be dead in less than 6 months. That place is a cesspool. And women are nothing more than baby makers. They will not blink an eye to help her...........a woman who had no say in anything.
Boo hoo, my heart bleeds for this man, his sister, Bin Laden and all of his other concubines
Maybe the Pakistanis should arrest all the Taliban crossing their border. Oh... that would entail some real border protection!
jeez, life sure does s k, doesn't it?
Boo freakin hoo!! To hell with her and her children. I'm sorry if i sound like a heartless ass but when it comes to these desert animals i just dont care anymore. If it were up to me, i'd wipe that section of the world from existance once and for all. i'm sick and tired of these @!$%#$ disrupting our way of life here in the United States.
Amen..... An eye for an eye" condition is worsening in the U.S.A. No one is innocent not even the "sins of the father" (their kids)
I'm afraid this "sins of the father" condition has been firmly embedded within Christian culture (not saying strictly American, but fairly influential within America) to begin with...
What a joke. Amal al-Sadah wasn't concerned about the health of all the innocent people her husband and his followers slaughtered, without justification. She and the others in the house with Osama bin Laden should have been shot also.
Exactly don't give the little suckers a chance to grow up and retaliate. And water board the bit$h and find out were his weapons stashes are. Cut her leg off and feed it to her. Sorry I had family in the twin towers so don't expect any sympathy outta me.
With a psychopathic attitude like that, its a damn shame for the rest of the human race you didn't die in the twin towers with your family.
You're no better than Osama bin Laden or any of his psychopathic Muslim friends who want to murder and torture for revenge.
What part of "arranged marriage" don't you understand?
What part of "arranged marriage" means she wasn't still an accompolice to her mass-murdering husband?
Even though I don't like Islam, I have to admit many Muslims are among Osama's victims. I count his wife among his victims, and more generally, a victim of a patriarchal society.
Isn't it the al-Qaida mentality one to consider American civilians as accomplices to the murder of Muslims resulting from American foreign policy going back 60 years before there really was Islamic terrorism like we have now?
That mentality is not useful. The fact that it still exists among humans so extensively is one reason I give little hope the human race will not make itself extinct.
Wow, what a mess! The Pakistanis certainly have the ability to give her adequate medical care. I hope the claim about her deteriorating health is just a ploy to call attention to the situation. Even if they decide to let her go, where is she going if Yemen isn't ready to accept her?
She can go to a Sanctuary City in the US and get Welfare, Medicaid and live off the US taxpayers