Mubarak must go!

Doger & Kornfed, do you actually understand or believe he garbage you post? What the F did Obama and Hillary do to create the current conditions in Egypt except pull support for a horrible dictator? Why don't you please go somewhere that you feel they screwed up and fix it and stay there? Would you have been happy living in Egypt under Mubarack? If so, go find somewhere similar and move, please. your blind ignorant hate is so pathetic. Please run for office so you can show the world how stupid you really are. Put up for once, or shut up, please. Some of us got past first grade.

Obama cut Mubarak off at the knees and endorsed his being ousted without even looking at or understanding those behind the protests or who would end up in charge once Mubarak was gone. He did the same thing in Libya and is doing the same thing in Syria. Not that any of the leaders of these countries could be called ideal, but at least they were/are secularists. Now we are watching on country after another in the Middle East going from a reasonably benign secular government to one controlled by Islamic Fundamentalists. The Muslim Brotherhood just won a huge percentage in the elections in Egypt and the Islamists are taking control in Libya as well. It is only a matter of time before the same thing happens in Syria. This "Arab Spring" that Obama and his cronies along with the liberal news media have been touting as this great and wonderful thing for the Middle East is looking more and more like the start of an "Arab Winter." I fear that what we are seeing is the start of a new dark ages for the Middle East with secular governments being replaced by Islamic Republics and the countries regressing back to more resemble a pre-colonial era in the areas of social structures and legal doctrines. This "Arab Spring" is the worst thing to happen to the people of the Middle East since the crusades. Gadhafi and Mubarak may not have been perfect, but they were far better than what we are seeing replacing them. Obama's foreign policy has been very short sighted and not well thought out. He has done more harm to the prospects for moving the Middle East forward into a more modern society than any US president in history.

hardtoread has his head up his own ass.

Kornfed's right. Mubarak was such a nice guy...

Sorry children, but hardtoread is right. In Egypt, all Obama did was quit supporting a dictator that the US had been propping up for years. They started it, and had a relatively easy revolution with a minimum of bloodshed. Then they had a democratic vote. Here is where it gets tricky, JS in SD. They (the Egyptians) chose to go with the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama didn't choose them, Hillary didn't choose them, the Egyptian people chose them. Do I think the Egyptians are stupid? You bet. Do I or you or Obama or Hillary have the right to tell them who to vote for? No more than the Egyptians have the right to tell YOU who to vote for.

"Not that any of the leaders of these countries could be called ideal, but at least they were/are secularists." ---Who killed and tortured their own people to continue their rule with an iron fist. I know you're simply trying to validate your anti-Obama argument, but that is the part of your comment that alarms me the most. In other words, at least they were our 'friends'. They did our bidding, therefore, the murder and the torture they committed to stay in power was/is acceptable to you? Let me say, I agree that we are seeing the start of a new Dark Ages. Let me say that I don't believe there are stupider people on Earth than Muslims. The Palestinians got the chance to vote...look who THEY chose! But we didn't do it. THEY did it to themselves. So are the Egyptians, so will the Libyans, so will the Syrians, et all, because they are stupid sheep being herded by evil Islamic fundamentalists. Obama allowed them to rid themselves of the dictators who were murdering and torturing them, but jumping from the pan into the fire was their decision, and theirs alone. I'm sure Obama doesn't like it anymore than we do, but he didn't get to choose their new leaders.

right, obama did this. if its bad obama did it.

i'm sure that obama could have kept mubarek in office. After all, according to the haters, he has no power and everyone ignores him and we are a laughingstock, so therefore its his fault mubarek left. All he had to do was to make another teleprompter speech and the angry crowds in egypt would have said "ok lets all go home".

or some stupid "logic" like that.

Obama could have done nothing to keep him in power, short of a full scale invasion and propping him up as an american puppet dictator.

But the truth doesn't fit the haters world view, so it is quickly discarded.

JS in SD: You absolutely amaze me. What do you believe Obama could have done to prevent the Arab Spring? Millions of people in the streets fighting against trained, well-armed, military personnel who were killing them by hundreds and thousands and yet they kept the struggle alive until they finally won. And yet, you say,

"Obama cut Mubarak off at the knees and endorsed his being ousted without even looking at or understanding those behind the protests or who would end up in charge once Mubarak was gone. He did the same thing in Libya and is doing the same thing in Syria. Not that any of the leaders of these countries could be called ideal, but at least they were/are secularists. Now we are watching on country after another in the Middle East going from a reasonably benign secular government to one controlled by Islamic Fundamentalists. The Muslim Brotherhood just won a huge percentage in the elections in Egypt and the Islamists are taking control in Libya as well. It is only a matter of time before the same thing happens in Syria. This "Arab Spring" that Obama and his cronies along with the liberal news media have been touting as this great and wonderful thing for the Middle East is looking more and more like the start of an "Arab Winter."

What are you thinking? Do you believe the President of the USA is both the political and supreme religious figure of all the world's religions causing all people to do his bidding? Do you think all the President has to do is to tell the masses of the mid-East, "Be loyal to your dictator because not to do so will violate your oath to me and I, then, will return your acts against me seven fold against you!" Geeeeeeeeeeeez..... What are you thinking??!!??

There are all kinds of views held by mid-Eastern peoples, and leaders of every group will be trying to mobilize their forces against the others. One good thing in all of it is the people seem willing to take to the streets when they are being injured. Will they do it if another dictator arises? Well, they're doing it in Iran! It's the 21st century and peoples across the planet have access to cell phones, television, computers, etc. etc. High speed communication and transportation have made the world a small, highly interdependent, planet. Yes, there will be problems, disasters, and violence, but there is good news in it all. For one, there are far fewer wars today than at anytime in the history of the human race. People seem to want freedom and security. Freedom, though, means they have the right to disagree and that can lead to violence. The people of the mid-East must work through their problems like the rest of us. There is no perfect world that we'll all reach that is a land better than life. In fact, the "perfect society" may be the one we have reached, a world where problems are solved based on majorities and minorities (majorities on one issue may be the minorities on other issues and the minorities on another issue may be majority on another and the majority on that issue ......) without violence and warfare. That is called democracy!

??? Is former president Jimmy Carter the one who is advising Obama and Hillery on how to handle the ME situation? if so in a sense Iran just got bigger. its borders cover half of North Africa and most of the Mediterranean, when they include Turkey its all over. advice turn off your fan.

actually, this is a revolution that is being hijacked by military and want to forgive everyone who killed an Egyptian during the revolution including Mubarak, and the oinly people that has been tortured, kidnapped, arrested or killed are the rebels

Only a fool would not realize that its the extremists that are instigating this trouble, the people won their revolution. why do these groups continue taunting the military and calling for more demonstrations they have a goal. and its not stability. the people of Egypt should wait for the elections, it hasn't even been a year yet. they have their Donkey pushing the cart not pulling. the Brotherhood has stepped in and stole the revolution, the liberal Egyptians have lost their dream of a free Egypt. you people that can't see this are foolish to think this is what is best and stupid to cast blame on the interim government, the Islamist are provoking all this. the military wanted the constitution before the elections the Brotherhood wanted the elections first, so they could draft the constitution, why do you think that is so. if they can maintain the unrest and the confusion they can accomplish this goal by keeping the peoples attention from where it belongs.

No.

Ours is working pretty well. Theirs is a work in progress.

Tourism in Egypt is dead.

Yea!!!! being I like your name you can be my second wife ok :) . oh wait you're talking about Egyptian people ........oh well............

uhuh, Please show me where I can find this video.

what foreign policy should have been there? massive invasion of egypt to keep mubarek forcibly in office? Or explain your "brilliant" ideas.

obama is destroying american values? like what?

Obama should have stayed out of this one, the problem is he picked a side and he funded the wrong people. this will all fly back in our face. he doesn't know who to befriend and who to avoid, give it a little time you will see, now just move your face a little closer to that fan Obama got for you. its common practice for Muslims to use their enemy as a allies till their cause is complete. then regroup and resume the main cause that is Islams world domination. Vermontguy are you one of those people that pays to go see a movie and only watches the cartoons. the only strategy our leaders have is to be politically correct, damn the outcome.

what would you have obama do differently?

he should have stayed out of it! completely, and let Egypt run itself. same with the rest of them they should have done this without foreign support. would you support someone going to the Vermont state asylum and opening the gates, then wander to the penitentiary and doing the same, and top it off with passing out firearms to the inmates as they funnel out the gate. would you?

I'm not an end timer but this is beginning to resemble Revelations Israel is getting into a nutcracker, with a Muslim Union forming all around them, its looking bad. are we to be the leaping Lion from the west. if civil war breaks out in the ME then it could spread to Europe, you could have Muslim uprisings through Indonesia as well, the old CCCP satellite countries are largely Muslim, Islam is the worlds second largest religion, we cant stomp out all the fires they start, and they are starting them all around the world. Asia, Asia Minor, Africa, Indonesia, Europe, North America and as far as Australia, with one goal in their mind world domination its at our doorstep. take off the blinders, there end game is to control you. and if you don't submit then you must die so they can have one world under Allah. its a cult thing.

oddly, the obama haters congratulated bush for his work in iraq that led to the arab spring. I guess he was the first clown, eh, coptic? lol

how did obama "bring" this to the middle east? your inane idiology is showing.

Really Copt? You honestly think we should have sent US soldiers to die in another war suppressing a revolution against a tyrannical dictator? Shed US blood to enforce an authoritarian regime? Because kiddo, that's the alternative.

vermontguy, Bush and Condi made the same mistake when they thought that they can bring democracy to Iraq and to Palestine. But after Hamas took over Gaza, any honest observer would have known the peril of trying to promote democratic rules in Islamic countries. Many radical Muslims believe that democracy is from the devil, and that they are using it only to take over the Government. Similar to the communist play book, radical Islam enters only one election and rewrite the rules after winning. This is happening now in Egypt.

Toasty, no I do not want USA to be involved in this God forsaken area one way or another, but we have been sending the wrong messages for a long time. Do you know that Senator Kerry last week on his visit to Egypt met only with the current rulers of Egypt and the MB, why he did not meet with representatives of the youth movement who ignited this doomed revolution?

Coptic Christian I'm sorry but you are wrong if you think you can squeeze one ounce of intelligence into the voids that Toasty and vermontguy are saving for possible storage. like many on the FAR LEFT that space is for rent.

D Buck, I agree with you. I only respond to their mindless postings as a public service; to help others see through the holes in their convoluted arguments.

So wait, your objection to all this is that one Senator didn't meet with student protesters? That's what all your fuss is about?

No Toasty, this is one of many actions this administration has taken. I referred to them in previous postings and I would not bother to repeat them for you. If you look up what I have posted this year on this blog you will find many postings about the youth revolution, the way it was stolen by MB and the Salafis, and the misguided policy of Obama in supporting radical Muslims in the Middle East.

BTW here's how a leading Salafist view Kerry's visit to Egypt, as reported in a major Egyptian Newspaper.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/105/29056/Egypt/Elections-/Kerry%E2%80%99s-visit-to-Islamists-is-a-sign-of-our-streng.aspx

(Anything else is really "putting the cart before the horse". I personally believe this is what we desperately need to do right here in the United States as well.) - RC

Rick, actually the constitution as planned by radical Muslims will be the key to Egypt demise.

Early this year, the Military rulers appointed a committee, dominated by MB members and/or MB sympathizers to suggest changes in the constitution. In March the country voted on these changes, radical Muslims told the country that if you rejected the changes your are not a good Muslim, the changes were approved by a large majority. Based on these results, radical Muslims claimed that the whole country agree with them and what they want is an election of the parliament who should appoint the government and write the constitution, many of them did not hide their plan to declare Egypt an Islamic state ruled by Sharia, and they are now discussing what will be the laws in regard to banning all alcoholic drinks and bank's interests, minorities and women rights, and what to do with all these pagan statues that ancient Egyptians left all over the country.

This is PRECISELY why I said that the Egyptian military should be leading and overseeing this redrafting of the Egyptian Constitution, with the help of the Egyptian people. The Egyptian military needs to reestablish the faith of the Egyptian people in them. The Egyptian military has a longstanding commitment to secular democracy, albeit (so far) very limited democracy because of their previous longstanding commitment to oligarchy. Many of the Egyptian public mistakenly believe that the only way to move forward toward greater democracy is to look elsewhere to their sectarian (religious) power centers for empowerment. However, that would be a very grave misstep for the Egyptian people and any other people on the face of this Earth. Please understand that I have repeatedly tried for over a decade now to warn our entire world that these corrupt Abrahamic religions which many hundreds of millions of people are gravely infected with were all covertly installed by outside offensive totalitarian ETs, who in turn are hellbent on stealing and annexing our extremely valuable celestial real estate. I repeatedly warned everyone for over a decade now that these outside offensive totalitarian ETs were covertly plotting to use their eminent domain rights of military intervention in our sector of the Milky Way galaxy to eventually steal and annex our extremely valuable celestial real estate on the heels of the future programmed Christian Apocalypse or World War III. These ETs were forced to take this covert approach toward territorial conquest in our Milky Way galaxy, because there are Free Galaxy powers located elsewhere in our Milky Way galaxy who currently stand in the way of overt military conquest on a stellar level. Unfortunately, the Obama White House just recently TOTALLY discredited me by denying that there is any evidence of ET or UFO activity around our world in U.S. government hands. That is one of the most BALD FACED LIES which anyone on the face of the Earth has ever told, and one day President Obama needs to be EXECUTED for having his administration spread that grave lie which effectively consigns the entire human race to extinction at the hands of these outside offensive totalitarian ETs. - Rick Carter

Obama team: No evidence of extraterrestrial life

By David Jackson, USA TODAY
Nov 06, 2011

The White House says there is no evidence of life beyond Earth -- and no cover-up by the government -- but scientists are still searching.

"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race," writes an Obama administration official on the White House website.

Phil Larson, who works on space policy and communications at the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy, also writes that "there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye."

President Obama's White House responded to a petition claiming a government cover-up of contact with space life.

It worked for Hitler, for a while

All right, since everyone seems to be patiently waiting for more information, I will continue. I previously stated that all three of the corrupt Abrahamic religions were biocybernetic warfare components of a larger ET designed PWMD, or Program Weapon of Mass Destruction, which in turn is designed to crash and explode our emerging human world in a final programmed cataclysm of global warfare fueled with WMDs, known as the Christian Apocalypse or World War III. I also stated unequivocally that this was "The Highest National and World Security Issue, BAR NONE !!!!!!!!!!!! (More to follow if you all want.) - Rick Carter

PLEASE understand, everyone, that this is EXACTLY what these outside offensive TOTALITARIAN OFFENSIVE TOTALITARIAN ETs have previously mathematically modeled and planned for. Below is my MOST URGENT APPEAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILL NO ONE SPONSOR ME, RICK CARTER, IN ORDER TO GET THIS VITAL ABSOLUTELY INFORMATION OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, so we can keep the human race from eventually going EXTINCT !!!!!!!!! NO ONE, GEE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, NOT EVEN ANY ONE OF OUR VARIOUS NATIONS UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!! (In that case you ALL must effectively be suicidal lemmings, in which case you deserve what you get.) I NEED TO GO PUBLIC WITH THIS VITAL INFORMATION in the most prominent way !!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust me, I am NOT afraid of embarrassing myself, because I ABSOLUTELY KNOW what I am talking about !!!! - Rick Carter

REPRINT: "WILL NO ONE OUT THERE SPONSOR ME, RICK CARTER, IN ORDER TO GET THIS VITAL ABSOLUTELY INFORMATION SECURELY OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, so we can keep the human race from eventually going EXTINCT at the hands of these outside offensive totalitarian ETs ???!!!!!!!!! NO ONE, GEE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, NOT EVEN ANY ONE OF OUR MANY NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!! (In that case you ALL must effectively be SUICIDAL LEMMINGS, in which case you deserve what you eventually get.) I REALLY, REALLY NEED TO GO PUBLIC WITH THIS VITAL INFORMATION in the MOST PROMINENT WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust me, I am NOT afraid of embarrassing myself, because I ABSOLUTELY KNOW what I am talking about !!!! - Rick Carter

PS - I really need to run ROUGHSHOD over everything in this country, if I am to keep our entire country and world from eventually going extinct. I solemnly promise the American people that I WILL INDEED see to it that President Obama eventually gets tried and EXECUTED BEFORE A FIRING SQUAD for his SUPREME LIES against all of mankind if he is found guilty, if the American people will only elect me as POTUS in 2012 !!!!!!!!!!! ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE WILL BE ACCEPTED!!! President Obama has effectively signed his own DEATH WARRANT in my view. - Rick Carter

If you were EVER trying to protect my veracity, then EXACTLY what should you have done, you GD evil betrayer of all humanity, Obama !!! (Just remember that when I am cocking the weapon which will help to see you to your demise, you A.H. !!! I intend to see to your future execution when I am Commander in Chief.) - Rick Carter

YOU, OBAMA, signed the death warrant for the entire human race, and if the American people ever give me even half a chance to sign your own personal death warrant as POTUS, then I intend to see to it that you die one of the most horrible deaths which anyone in the entire human race has ever suffered. (BAR NONE !!! Go to HE-LL, you EVIL, STINKING, LYING S.O.B. !!!) - RC