Doctor: Two Western photographers recovering in Misrata

Ed Ou / Redux Pictures

Photojournalists Guy Martin, left, and Dominic Nahr, right, take cover behind a wall as anti- and pro-government protesters throw stones during a clash near Tahrir Square in Cairo on Feb. 3. Martin was seriously wounded in Misrata, Libya, on Wednesday.

Surgeon Ahmed Radwan was finishing an operation in a Libyan city under siege by Gadhafi forces on Wednesday when he got the call: A man with massive bleeding needed his help.

The patient was Guy Martin, a British photographer affiliated with the Panos photo agency. He had been hit by shrapnel and had two main injuries: one to his bowel and major trauma to the arteries and veins in his pelvis. The surgery at the private hospital lasted six hours, said Radwan, a 35-year-old vascular surgeon from Cairo who is volunteering with the Arab Medical Union.

"The major vessels of the left (lower) limb usually come from the pelvis and go through the limb – those were totally cut. We ligated some of them to control the bleeding, because he was bleeding too much," he said in a Skype interview with msnbc.com. "We just reconstructed the major and the important ones with (synthetic) grafts."


"The bleeding was controlled," he said, noting that Martin was in the intensive care unit. "He's doing fine. He's going to make it, inshallah."

Martin can be evacuated, but he is not fit for a long trip, Radwan said. "He cannot stay in a car for a long time ... he will suffer a lot of pain. Still he needs fluids and IV lines to be connected to him," the surgeon said.

Martin was with British-born Tim Hetherington, the Oscar-nominated co-director of the documentary "Restrepo" about U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan; Chris Hondros, a New York-based photographer for Getty Images; and American photographer Michael Christopher Brown on Wednesday when they were caught in an explosion. Hetherington and Hondros died from their injuries.

The Washington Post reported that the group had gone with rebel fighters to Tripoli Street in the center of Misrata, scene of the some of the most intense recent fighting in the city. Many circumstances of the incident were unclear, The Associated Press reported. A statement from Hetherington's family said he was killed by a rocket-propelled grenade.

Radwan said he also saw – but did not treat – Brown.

"His function is good. ... I saw him visiting Guy. He was talking to him, checking on him to see that he was OK," Radwan said. "I didn't get a chance to talk to him a lot. ... He was not feeling good because of (what happened to) his friends."

The coastal city of Misrata lies on a road linking the capital, Tripoli, a Gadhafi stronghold, to the key oil town of Sirte in the east. It has been difficult for Western journalists to access the city because of weeks of heavy fighting.

Libyan-American describes harrowing escape from Misrata

No one can say how many people have been killed as Gadhafi’s forces have moved against the city. Medical facilities have tallied 257 people killed and 949 wounded – including 22 women and eight children – since Feb. 19, Human Rights Watch reported last week.

Misrata's opposition media committee reported late Thursday that Tripoli Street had been taken by the rebel fighters, a key breakthrough in ridding the area of Gadhafi snipers. A spokesman reported five deaths and 27 injuries, though it was not clear if those were of opposition fighters or Gadhafi forces.

"There are a lot of losses," said Radwan, who has been in Misrata for 15 days. "The price of this achievement is a lot of dead bodies, and a lot of blood."

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Libyan rebels are paying a heavy price for resisting Gadhafi forces in Misrata. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

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exploiting the death of a reporter is sick....describing his wounds is even sicker...anything for money right?

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Reply#1 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:12 PM EDT

um dude I realize you were in a big hurry to post first, but they described the wounds and treatment of a photographer who lived, and his chance for recovery

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#1.1 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:00 PM EDT

um dude I realize you were in a big hurry to post first, but they described the wounds and treatment of a photographer who lived, and his chance for recovery

Seriously, people don't even bother reading the articles anymore.

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#1.2 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:13 AM EDT
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Not money,,,Pulitzer Prize,,,Warlibs for glamour photos,,,exhausting!!!

    Reply#3 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:22 PM EDT

    Conviction; Conviction is the word... These reporters are heroes, they are the eyes and ears of humanity.

    No pulitzer prize is worth a life nor amount of money. Conviction ... Thanks to all journalist.

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    Reply#4 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:52 PM EDT

    Putting oneself in a dangerous situation is silly.

      #4.1 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:43 AM EDT
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      They're just a few more of the hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed in this multi-national corporate takeover bid that is the Middle East.

        Reply#5 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:52 PM EDT

         So when is the media going to show a streaming film of the doctors chopping into the bodies or is that going to be left to the grocery store tabloids where they can make more money? Ghouls at work.

          Reply#6 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:15 PM EDT

          Clearly little Jonny can't read.  And if he could, there is no chance he could either comprehend or appreciate the role that the press plays in informing an intelligent and interested populace. 

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          Reply#7 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:26 PM EDT

          It was foolish and fool hardy to attack Libya and destablize the Gadhafi Libyan government which is appearing everyday to have begun the Al Qaeda wheels of chaos and destruction thru-out all western leaning nations in all of Africa, destablizing the fragile democracy in Egypt, arming Hamas, Hezbollah and threatening the security of Israel.

          ABC News Investigative Report: East Libya Rebels had 'Perverse Pride' in Killing Americans! http://xrl.in/8tpz

          US State Dept.Chris Stevens attempted to hide East Libya Rebels have direct links to Al Qaeda from the American public. http://xrl.in/8tpz

          It is a complete and total insult to the thousands of US and NATO troops that were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by these very same Al Qaeda linked East Libya rebel scum-bags for France,America,UK to now Help,Shield,Arm and Fund them.

          No way does the small minority of East Libyan Islamic extreme mililtants represent the 6 Million Libyan secular Islamic moderate people who actively resist and do not want to be forced into another East Libyan King Idris Islamic Caliphate Libyan State. During the past 40 since Gadhafi overthrew King Idris, Libya has made great strides in caring and providing for the Libyan People:

          Under Gadhafi the Libya people recieved a $1000 dollar per
          person annual payback and a $64,000 Free Grant for new family homes.

          Under Gadhafi the Libya people recieved Free Education,Medical
          and Medicare and a $20,000 free grant for new business development.

          Under Gadhafi the Libya people had 50% of the Libyan Pharmacies dispensing all drugs and medical supplies for FREE.

          Under Gadhafi the Libya people had Free Electricity and could rent housing for FREE.

          Under Gadhafi the Libya people were given interest free Home, Car Loans and Gadhafi's government paid a full 50% of the purchase price on all car purchases.

          The percentage of Libyans in the poverty level and infant mortality was the lowest in Libya under Gadhafi than in ALL African nations and many Western nations. The average GDP per person in Libya was 14,000 dollars per year which is respectable in any African nation.

          Such never existed under the East Libyan extreme Islamic Caliphate State of Libya's King Idris who was overthrown by Gadhafi. However the East Libyan Rebels definately want to set up another extreme Islamic Caliphate Libyan State which the majority of Libyan civilians and Libyan tribes reject.

          No way and no how does the East Libyan minority represent and harmonize with the majority of the 6 million Libyan civilians who are largely pro-Gadhafi who brought them prosperity,education, medical care and free housing.

          Hundreds of thousands of Africans have immigranted from dozens of African nations to have and enjoy the benefits offered by Gadhafi and Libya.

          This operation by France and Britian appears to have been planned far in advance to steal Libya's Oil when Gadhafi threatened to either nationalize the Libyan Oil fields of for the French and UKs BP to take a smaller Oil revenue share from their Libyan Oil field leases.

          This past Nov.2nd.2010 France and UK announced 'war game' Operation 'Southern Mistral 2011' which was conducted to portray the exact sceneo played out now for them both to sweep in and steal Libyas Oil fields.

          This Libyan war was all planned and then practiced last year. This isn't about the Libyan civilians whom are now suffering directly because of the Civil war both France and the UK caused. It is about France and the UK securing and stealing the Libyan Oil fields.

          EXPOSED! A well written,researched Libya Documentary outlining the hidden history,hypocrisy behind the War on Libya http://xrl.in/8ur7

          Seven BBC Lies in a single news article, "Libya: France and Italy to send officers to aid rebels" http://xrl.in/8uwk

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          Reply#9 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:05 PM EDT

          Wow! If only a reputable news agency would do a documentary on this and report it's accuracy. What is the CIA involved in? . Somehow they are under the radar but still spend many, many billions a year. Are they involved in this? My mother was a Berliner. I asked her when I was young how the German's could allow such a thing to happen, total war. She said that the government controlled the news. There was no other news. You begin to believe what you read and heard.

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          #9.1 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:47 PM EDT

          He is a scumbag terrorist. With TONS of gold. No more dollars or euro's for oil-he wanted GOLD. Is this coincidence? I don't know. Wat i do know if you wanna kill a snake you cut its HEAD OFF. Die Col. Q, die mother@!$%#er.

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          #9.2 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:03 AM EDT

          I read an article eariler today that reported that he was killed by mortor fire on msn. Wish i knew what and who to believe when i want accurate news. Restrepo was awesome!!

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          #9.3 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:25 AM EDT

          I celebrate the courage that these people have, risking their lives to bring use the real story. Richard Engel comes to mind as well.

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          #9.4 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:14 AM EDT

          Everything will change once you have the western democracy. You now have sufficient gun and the western nations will supply more gun for use in Libya to kill your folks living in luxury. The western nations want to see you ride in bicycle and old cars, drink from well and your street litter with slums. Welcome to democracy 101 from the western nations. Iraq is living through western democracy. You see more darkness than light, and frustrated Iraqs tired of western democracy are lining up and volunteering self for suicide. Libyan will soon join the folks. Love to see drama of human misery unfold on CNN and blame GHADDAFI for everything. Did Ghaddafi slept with that lady running amock in the Hotel shown on CNN TV. What a sight seeing funning people driving around in truck shooting into the sky and putting holes on houses. It looks like a video game. Are they real. Do people still go to school with all the shooting and hell fire dropping from heaven - thanks to western power. Someone said another name for United Nation is NATO. United Nation unathorized the use of arms to safe lives. NATO drafted the bill and NATO is dropping the cakes on Libyan. Funny world. More video game from Libyan please. Tired of watching similar game from Iraq and Halfganistan (Alfganistan - I will never know how to spell this country name. Actually they are always half and never whole.) Syria and Egypt. I think these two country are tired of working and spending time on vacation in squares. They are always on the street instead of working to earn a living. May whatever they wish for come true. War and more video game for entertainment.

            #9.5 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:44 AM EDT
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            whoa lets go back a bit if things were so rosey for the people under gadfree why are they trying to get rid of him and why did the good ol usofa spend millions of dollars a year proping up the skum bucket huh

            I for one sure dont believe much in A. Smith post some may be true but I dont see it

              Reply#10 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:25 PM EDT

               Well I do feel sorry for their injuries and deaths but I sure wish the freaking stories would cover the real heros more in depth. That is the soldiers putting their life on the line every day. You read about reporters for days but you might hear about a soldier's death in 1 article. Set your damn prorities.

                Reply#11 - Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:55 PM EDT

                The military gets its share of publicity through MSNBC; both good and bad. And yes, while there are personnel to risk their lives everyday doing their job, there is an even higher proportion of personnel just doing the daily grind in their MOS.

                  #11.1 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:27 AM EDT
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                  Takes alotta balls to carry a camera in a war zone. This poor dude survives the Korengal and gets killed in Libya. Wat a damn shame. Nato is proving inept w/out the US. Pour on the airpower and END this. This got mission creep written all over it. So, this is the UK's, France and Italy's problem. The FFL isn't even French, send them. The French are again dropping the ball. This world is headed for the @!$%#ter anyway. OIL. $$$. GREED. POWER. ISAF=I Saw Americans Fighting. No US ground troops. Kill Col Q and its over. KILL HIM>

                    Reply#12 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:13 AM EDT

                    France, how about REALLY helping these people? Italy too. WTF? In the end, if they win, they will turn on us infidels in a NY minute. Why don't the Saudi's send aircraft? Scumbags. Those Saudi's, we should let the Iranians scare the @!$%# outta them. They come runnin to "Uncle"...

                      Reply#13 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:19 AM EDT

                      As far as I'm concerned if you're inclined to enter a war zone you get what comes with it.

                      You can't expect either side to stop shooting so a reporter can be safe.

                      Staying out of the way is much safer.

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                      Reply#14 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:17 AM EDT

                      be patient, as the parents of a photjournalist I am often asked "Do you not worry when your son is in X?" Of course we do. Ask them why they risk so much; it seems to come from a very deep humanitarian fellow feeling; unless they go in, we never will know what has happened, as Truth is the first caualty in War. People say "it miust be an incredible Rush!" likening it to Motor bike racing or Bungee jumping etc. the truth is different. Its so sad Tim and Chris were killed; they COULD have stayed at home, but chose to tell the story on behalf of those who have so little voice in our World.

                        #14.1 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT
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                        US Mil.Intel found Benghazi, Libya a 'Breeding Ground' of Al Qaeda Fighters,US Drone attacks on Libyans fighting against them is plain WRONG.

                        The Libyan people do not want the radical Islamic extremist militants from East Libyan taking their citys and ruling their nation.

                        It is utterly insulting to the thousands of US soldiers that died in Iraq, Afghanistan for Pres.Obama to bomb the Libyan people who are fighting against those very same Al Qaeda scum-bags.

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                        Reply#15 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:48 AM EDT

                        A. Smith if you back Daffy and think life was so great you must be Daffy or one of his wealthy little friends. Protest's do not start over living being so great and good leaders are never toppled.
                        Better read up, Hamas just took down an Al Qaeda group for killing ISM's Vittorio Arrigoni who was no terrorist although your beloved Israel probably viewed him and all ISM's people that way. Israel is the only one that is threatening their own security by not living by their Gods given law of only an eye for an eye, making idols out of land, etc. What she is reaping is exactly what she is sowing-look at the death toll always 3 neighbors to 1 Israelite and that was before they stormed Lebanon the last time killing many more over someone who wasn't dead.
                        Back to Daffy Gadhafi, I guess you have already forgotten how many American's he killed on a plane. You talk about some of these rebels may have killed Americans when they entered Iraq? Probably did happen since America never did have a legitimate reason to enter Iraq this time, yet if they where fighting for Al Qaeda they would be in Afghan and Pakistan now wouldn't they. You need to understand the Muslim faith has extremist's just like the Christian faith does and just because the main faith is the same doesn't mean they get along with the extremists. Even foes will unite to topple a bigger foe and then may have to fight it out or talk it out as to what they end up with. The one person I highly expect that was supporting Al Qaeda is Daffy himself since he not only will kill his own people instead of please them, but also wanted American's dead. Even if he knows Al Qaeda is against his life style, aide/money is always accepted when other sources are cut. So exactly where where they getting all their money to keep up the fight when they are in another poor country?
                        Another fact is Americans have been killed by Russians, Japanese, Germans and many others in times of war or peace, yet when it's over it's over and we are helping them all or buddies today. China owns a lot of our debt, yet they still kill babies today. In Nam a blonde haired blue eyed German spy got a lot of our people killed so many come to the aide of others either due to money or thinking they are helping those who have been wronged.
                        First Daffy claims it's Al Qaeda attacking him and now it's over others wanting to die to take over what little oil his Nation has produced? We know Al Qaeda doesn't care about oil, Laden walked away for a very good life of oil riches yet it wouldn't surprise me if he's not in one of the hedge funds driving up the price of American gas right now. I don't think 1-10% of the worlds oil production is worth dying over so you'd better come up with a better reason than that as to why others are willing to prevent a genocide there which is what Daffy is up to BTW.
                        Face it, today's friend is tomorrows foe and today's foe is tomorrows friend. Your friend Daffy is way out of line killing civilians and anyone not on his side, so I hope he, his daughter and sons all reap justice with their brains blown out just like they have caused to happen to innocent people who did not strike the first blow in this and to reporters who where not spreading his lies. If reporters are censored or not given access freely then they are only feeding lies.
                        Why should I care, because this is not Daffy's first slaughter of his own people and I still regret to this day that Ida Amin got to die of old age. If this world is ever going to get better it's time to stop this kind of nonsense before it creates another fruit cake that will be out to Dominate the world. Ignore it and what happens anywhere in the world or your own Nation will finally wind up on your doorstep full blown. Mass communication makes those old days of being able to kill off your people long gone, so you'd better make the majority of them happy or the world just might have to step in to put a stop to your insanity.

                          Reply#16 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:34 AM EDT

                          And just 'WHO' are these 'HEROS' that McCain is claiming his allegance to, and pledging American lives to sacrifice in protecting them? NONE OTHER THAN THE ALQAEDA fighters who killed thousands of US Soldiers in Iraq!

                          East Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed USA, NATO Troops in Iraq http://xrl.in/8vdp now the utterly disgusting US Senator John McCain is calling these same scum-bags his Heros??

                          The West Point Document,Sinjar records showing East Libya Al Qaeda rebels killed US,NATO troops and civilians in Iraq. http://xrl.in/8vdr

                          East Libya Rebels Are Younger Brothers of al Qaeda Suicide Bombers who Killed US, NATO Soldiers in Iraq! Now John McCains Heros?!

                          East Libya Rebels are Al-Qaeda Fighters From Iraq who killed US,NATO Soldiers,Civilians http://xrl.in/8vdu

                          Video exposing East Libya Rebels are the SAME Terrorists who Killed US,NATO troops in Iraq http://xrl.in/8vdx

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                          #16.1 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:09 PM EDT

                          McCain was in Libyan. Please vote for him. He would be a nice President after Ghaddafi gone. He loves video game and bomb, bomb, bomb. Masacre is his middle name. Go Libyan

                            #16.2 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:56 AM EDT
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                            His name will be remembered in a NEW LIBYA....

                              Reply#17 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:48 AM EDT

                              How would you like to be a reporter who risks his life to report the facts, and then have those facts NOT reported because Faux News is more interested in Charlie Sheen Or Lindsay Lohan

                                Reply#18 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:52 AM EDT

                                This is merely another reporter who took their chances on going to a bad place and got killed like so many other people have. He isn't anyone special. All this worship crap is making me puke. Only reason you hear so much about these people is because he is part of the snooze industry.

                                They love to pat themselves on the back and tell everyone how great they are and how great the politicians they vote for are. They are about as trustworthy as a pit viper.

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                                #18.1 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:24 AM EDT
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                                David, Tampa, What are you beefing about? Fox News not only reported it, it provided a slide show. Weird what some people will just write without any investigation.

                                http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/world/2011/04/21/photos-libya/#slide=1

                                It was also reported on Fox before this article was posted.

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                                Reply#19 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:17 AM EDT

                                can anyone put a stop to this damn war,fight ect..sick of it..

                                  Reply#20 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:33 AM EDT

                                  I'm sick of glory seeking reporters and film makers going to report on something, then becoming the story themselves. Why don't we get more coverage of our boys and girls in Afghanistan who are at least dying for something, rather than four "journalists", two who were killed and two injured, for nothing. I have very little symathy for them or their families. If they had cared about their families feelings they would have stayed home.

                                  Besides who really cares what is going on in Libya with a bunch of blood thirsty Muslims. There will be no democracy in Libya, or anywhere in North Africa so long as Islam is the religion of choice.

                                    Reply#21 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:59 AM EDT

                                    In no fashion can the UN Resolution 1973 be twisted,contorted,bent or even mutilated to support any outside nation attacking the Libyan Civilian Tribes whose MAJORITY do not want the Al Qaeda East Libyan rebels taking over their city's, lands and nation.

                                    It would be a complete and total warcrime for a foreign nation to bomb the Libyan Civilian Tribes whose majority far outnumbers the East Libyan extremist Al Qaeda linked Rebels.

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                                    Reply#22 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:20 PM EDT

                                    Hunny Bunch, I grew up in the military and joined the military so your not going to pull any wool over my eyes. Even McCain has viewed some things in the world wrong, yet in this he is 100% right. There where not that many Al Qaeda fighters in Iraq hunny bunch, most of them where to busy in Afghan and then Pakistan. Some did go to Iraq for the mere reason of side-tracking the U.S. in their only justified mission which was to take out Bin Laden. The only terrorist I see in Libya is Daffy and his followers that will kill their own people in order to keep their own riches. When your money runs out who do you think you can pay to protect you?

                                    Funny you bring up West Point. As I recall a West Pointer leader in Nam had troops walk along the road in the open in Nam which of course stupidly got some people killed needlessly. Watch out who you try to use for propaganda, your most respected leaders are the ones that climb up the ranks and always had their boots on the ground with the grunts.

                                    The only ones who will fall for the fact that Al Qaeda makes up the majority of the rebels are your own brain-washed rich people, rest of us know different hunny bunch. Yes some may be in their mist, just like there are Nazi party, KKK, and several fractions in our mist that FYI are also in our military and country.

                                    What's your next rap, the rebels are killing themselves and these reporters? I think not, we know who kills innocent people and that’s you hunny bunch. You don't have to be the one to fire a bullet in order to get it fired to kill people with, you just have to back the wrong horse. How about you demanding peace, your leader to step down and a new Libya that all (not just you) can live in. BTW if you where the majority this wouldn't have been much of a fight to begin with and you wouldn't need to bring in African fighters to do your dirty work.

                                    What do you not know about a democracy? In a democracy everyone can be represented via the power of your vote. If your so much in the majority as you think you are, then you will be highly represented yet others will be also. If you are so right, then you have nothing to fear in ending the bloodshed and becoming a democracy. Again I will say never in the history of this world has a good ruler ever been overthrown because they do good for all their people. Every Nation in the Middle East/Africa could prevent these problems if they would address the problems of the people immediately instead of ignoring them or calling them terrorist & trying to kill them off because when that happens eventually you will see non-fighters become fighters.

                                    As for the UN Resolution I suggest you get your civilians to stop protecting locations that have weapons your using to kill other civilians with, like they are being forced to do leave your home if weapons are near it.

                                    Tell your (real or sugar) Daddy Daffy I said hi and hope it's bye soon by any means possible-step down or death.

                                      Reply#23 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:51 AM EDT

                                      Anti-American Extremists Among Libyan Rebels U.S. Has Vowed To Protect http://xrl.in/7ihk

                                      U.S. Government Backs Libyan Al-Qaeda While Hyping Terror Attacks Inside U.S. http://xrl.in/7ij5

                                      Libyan Rebels in Benghazi deeply connected to Al Qaeda US Military Documents reveal! http://xrl.in/7sih

                                      Senior Al Qaida commander backs Libyan rebels in video tape posted on Jihad Websites. http://xrl.in/8br7

                                      East Libya Rebels LIFG is listed as a Al Qaeda Terror Organization http://xrl.in/8r13 see #3,4,5,6

                                      Al Qaeda linked East Libyan Rebels are attempting to get the 30 Billion US seized but US fears Al Qaeda would obtain it! http://xrl.in/8r2i

                                      Al Qaeda setting up Islamic Libyan Emirate,Calipate due to Al Qaeda linked East Libyan Rebels http://xrl.in/8r2n

                                      The CIA plunges Libya into Chaos even as Gadhafi helped all Libyans prosper http://xrl.in/8vg6

                                      US Mil.Intel found Benghazi a 'Breeding Ground' of Al Qaeda Fighters, Unleashing US Drone attacks on Libyans fighting these Al Qaeda Rebel scum-bags is WRONG!

                                      East Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed USA, NATO Troops in Iraq http://xrl.in/8vdp now McCains Heros??

                                      THE SMOKING GUN!, The West Point Counter Terrorism Iraqi Document and it's Sinjar records showing East Libya Al Qaeda rebels killed US,NATO troops in Iraq http://xrl.in/8vdr

                                      The West Point Counter Terrorism PDF file proves the East Libya Rebels Are the Younger Brothers of al Qaeda Suicide Bombers who Killed US, NATO Soldiers in Iraq

                                      East Libya Rebels are Al-Qaeda Fighters From Iraq who killed US,NATO Soldiers,Civilians http://xrl.in/8vdu

                                      Video exposing East Libya Rebels are the SAME Terrorists who Killed US,NATO troops in Iraq http://xrl.in/8vdx

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                                      #23.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:57 AM EDT
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                                      There is no glory going into a war zone as a reporter or as a fighter.
                                      No amount of money or awards can wipe away the things seen in war zones or worth risking your life over. In more modern nations it takes brave souls who are willing to die for others to do it, while in poorer nations it's still just for the money.

                                      Reporters are hero's since without them risking their lives you would only be fed one side of any story and never know what the people there are going through whether as civilians or fighters. What happens anywhere matters because as you have seen in your own Nations what happens elsewhere even in your own Nation ends up on your doorstep if you ignore it. Exactly why 9/11 happened or even Pearl Harbor.

                                      Yes you don't want to see it, hear about it and that is exactly why those who risked their very life’s fighting for your sorry excuse of a body come home and feel they have no one they can talk to about it with except others that experienced the same thing they did. If you have seen what they have been through, although it actually takes being there with death at your door every second you breath to fully understand, you will know more of what they went through to protect your life.

                                      Stick your head in the sand and close your eyes, but don't whine when this finally ends up on your own doorstep with no brave souls left willing to die for ungrateful human beings who never cared about them.

                                      I care what happens in Libya and in all parts of the world and it doesn't matter one bit what religion anyone is. Name one religion that wasn't twisted to do evil by either directly or indirectly. Turkey has Islam as the main religion of choice and it's a democracy. Muslims are not blood thirty, in fact they are more of a brotherhood than any other main religion is. Where were you when all the so-called Christian preachers where showing all their little war maps on TV talking about where ours and others lives should be put in jeopardy due to a so-called stupid holy war. Look at Israel who is afraid to die in order to join their God and takes more than an eye for an eye thus breaking His rules. Religion is a great propaganda tool used for condoning bloodshed needlessly or living a good civilized life (unless it's Satanic or extremist based-J.Jone, Waco,Tx, BinLaden).

                                        Reply#24 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:57 AM EDT

                                        The CIA’s Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed USA, NATO Troops in Iraq http://xrl.in/8vdp

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                                        Reply#25 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:45 AM EDT

                                        Smith FYI Al Qaeda fighters don't run right off the bat like the rebels did on so many occasions, thus proving they are just armed people with no fighting experience in their background. We all know Al Qaeda has killed Americans in Iraq and we all know Daffy had American's killed on a plane. So what's your point? Pick which we should go after, I pick Daffy since he killed our civilians on a plane. If your in the military it’s your job to fight and be a target, not the case if your just a civilian.

                                        Daffy killed these reporters, not the rebels. Had Daffy not been killing his own people they would still be alive today or at least not dead by Daffy's wrong doing. Saying they shouldn't be there is about like saying it's the American's fault for being on an international flight that Daffy had blown out of the sky right?

                                        Al Qaeda, if Daffy had them in his country and didn't turn them over to the U.S. or let them go to Iraq to kill American's that makes him guilty of aiding and abetting them. That means he willingly let them go kill Americans and then return to Libya. That in turn means he sanctioned their actions of killing Americans in Iraq by letting them right back in his country without turning them over to the U.S. Sure you want to say Daffy let these people kill Americans in Iraq and then come back to Libya and not scream foul until they attacked him?
                                        Big tip Al Qaeda cannot take over a country because then it will make them an easy target to take out, thus they hide in Nations. Yet if they pull off any more mass killing stunts I suspect they will end up having their host country given the option of either taking them out and turning them over or be invaded to get the job done. The world is not about to let them or anyone go around killing innocent people. No 1 religion or person will ever rule this world.

                                        Tell Daffy his ideal of pulling his military out and letting tribesmen kill the rebels will not fly if Daffy arms them. I’m sure they want to use machetes or hunting weapons on the rebels, otherwise all they will end up being is your new armed military personnel. If they have good fighting experience then we will know killed Americans in Iraq. Your tribesmen want a solution to end the fighting have them have Daffy step down, it's that simple. Rebels are not blocking their routes, Daffy’s fighting them is. Daffy pulls out and they come un-armed they will not be harmed by the rebels, remember it’s only Daffy who is killing civilians not the rebels. Face it Daffy has no way out and he is not living in a world of stupid people.

                                        Tripoli wouldn't need arms if everyone there really backed Daffy. Who in Tripoli do you fear? Your own so-called supporters? Shots fired in Tripoli only proves your falling apart from within. And taking reporters on guided tours wouldn't be needed in a city that fully supports Daffy.

                                        I won't be back to see all your mindless links. I depart saying I'm sorry for the lives that this has needlessly taken on all sides (rebels, yours, immigrants, and reporters). Had Daffy been a good leader not one drop of blood would have been spilled in the first place. Now that it has and he has committed war crimes he will have to face those he harmed or the U.N. War Crimes Tribunal. When your Nation is in the world’s spotlight there is no way in the world you will be able to cover up your war crimes. Pictures do tell the story, so these and other reporters will not have died in vein. So long zombie.

                                          Reply#26 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:52 AM EDT

                                          Jan 2011, Libya under Gadhafi abolished taxes,duties on local,imported food eliminating global food price increases on all Libyan people http://xrl.in/8weu

                                          European Station states NATO has (broken UN Resolution 1973) sent 1,000 Ground troops into Libya which is not covered in USA NEWS! http://xrl.in/8wed

                                          Who precisely is the East Libyan Rebels Islamic Group? LIFG is part of Al Qaeda and Banned by the UN http://xrl.in/8vwt

                                          Libya's economy and revenue sharing with all the Libyan people coupled with extremely generous Free Medical Care, Medical Supplies, Electricity, Housing, Medicare, Welfare, Education anywhere in the world totally disputes the Al Qaeda East Libya's claims that Libyans were oppressed and largely living in poverty.

                                          CIA FACTBOOK, only 10 Nations out of the worlds 140 had fewer people living in poverty than Libya's 7.4%. America has far more of it's population at 12% living in poverty. http://xrl.in/8w3w

                                          America certainly does not provide me and all other citizens with free electricty, free housing, free medical care, free prescriptions and medical supplies.

                                          America certainly does not provide me and all other citizens with free college tuition anywhere in the world. America certainly does not give me a 50% free downpayment on the cars that I or all other American citizens purchase.

                                          America certainly does not give all of it's citizens interest Free Car and Home Loans.

                                          Oh but the Al Qaeda East Libyan Rebels cry, whine and wail they have it BAD!

                                          Those lieing scum-bags are the same ones that killed thousands of US Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly ALL of the suicide Al Qaeda bombers who murdered Thousands of Iraqi and Afghanistan Civilians CAME from East Libya whom Gadhafi was and is intent on eliminating.

                                          America should be helping Gadhafi eliminate the Al Qaeda Rebels who had killed US Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. America should be modeling their economic domestic investment on the American people based on Libya's rocking economy under Gadhafi.

                                            Reply#27 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:51 PM EDT
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