In a devastating blow to journalism, award-winning photojournalists Tim Hetherington and Chris Hondros were killed while covering a battle between rebels and Libyan government forces in the city of Misrata on Wednesday.
Richard Engel, NBC News chief foreign correspondent, has spent over a decade reporting from war zones across the Middle East, in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon, and most recently on the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya.
In a phone interview while driving back into Libya from Egypt after a brief break, he discussed the tragic deaths of Hetherington and Hondros and why war reporters do what they do.
When something like the deaths of these two photojournalists happen, people always ask why do war reporters do it? What motivates them to risk their lives to tell the story?
Engel: I think Tim and Chris were doing this because they clearly loved it. They were in a position to experience world events first-hand and to make a difference. Their work portrayed war in a close-up fashion that showed the world what conflict is really like, what it’s like for the victims and what it’s like for the soldiers.
I think that unique experience and perspective compelled them to do what they did. And it inspires all of us to do it. And in this community of reporters, their loss is very deeply felt. There is a palpable feeling of loss among their colleagues today.
Did you ever work with either of them?
Engel: Tim was one of the co-directors of the documentary “Restrepo.” He and Sebastian Junger spent a lot of time in the Korengal Valley in Afghanistan. Coincidentally it was the same outpost that we made a documentary about it called “Tip of the Spear.” So I know what they went through because we also spent a great deal of time at the same outpost called Restrepo.
It was an incredibly dangerous place with very poor conditions – hiking for hours a day up and down mountain sides. To do this kind of work it takes tremendous dedication, tremendous willingness to put yourself at risk and tremendous physical stamina. Tim was 41 years old, but he was running up and down mountains alongside U.S. troops who are on average 22, 23, 24 years old.
I unfortunately never had the pleasure of knowing Tim, but I know his work and was envious of the incredible material he got. We were at the same place, but he got so many pictures that I wish I had gotten myself.
Chris was definitely a part of the community of reporters; everybody knew him. There is a very small group of war correspondents – people who you consistently see. In Baghdad, in South Lebanon, in Afghanistan, in Libya now – there are maybe a couple of hundred people – and that includes Europeans, Americans – that’s it.

Chris Hondros / Getty Images
In this photo by Chris Hondros a rebel fighter celebrates as his comrades fire a rocket barrage toward the positions of troops loyal to Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi on April 14, 2011 west of Ajdabiyah, Libya.
Our community has taken an incredibly hard blow since 9/11. Every few months it seems, or certainly every year – but it seems now more like several times a year – we lose somebody. And that is difficult. Some new people join, but I’ve been covering the Middle East for 15 years and I can’t remember another period where every few months it seems like we lose another colleague.
Iraq was terrible, Afghanistan has been terrible and Libya has been very rough on reporters.
Chris was one of the guys you saw everywhere. He knew everyone. We’d go out to the same restaurants and often hang out together in the same hotels. So there is a definite bond. While soldiers talk about a bond that develops in a platoon, among this small group of reporters there is also the same kind of solidarity and feeling of family that grows.
Do you think that feeling of community among the reporters makes it possible to do what you do?
Engel: I think we definitely look out for each other. I’ve been in many circumstances where fellow colleagues put themselves at great risk to help other colleagues.
I remember in Iraq, a good friend of mine stayed behind and stopped reporting so he could try to get his colleagues out of jail. You see things like that. In Iraq, when one of the media hotels was bombed, it was reporters who carried fellow reporters down the steps and into vehicles to try to help them get some medical attention.
And again yesterday, it was reporters, as well as some Libyans and hospital officials, who were carrying their colleagues to safety to this triage center in Misrata. So there certainly is a feeling of not only community but of support. You are trying to look out for each other because when you are out in a war zone behind an enemy line, there are only so many people you can rely on.
And this conflict in Libya is very different from Iraq or Afghanistan. Most of the time in Iraq or Afghanistan when Western reporters went out on the front lines, they went on embeds with American troops. Here you are going with the rebel movement that doesn’t have medics with them or any of those kinds of support mechanisms.

Tim Hetherington / Panos Pictures
In this photo taken by Tim Hetherington a rebel soldier controls a crowd during the Ivory Coast Patriotic Movement (MPCI) uprising at the beginning of the civil war, which began with a rebellion by army mutineers on 19th September 2002.
I know you are driving into Libya right now, but do you ever get scared? Think to yourself, 'Gee, should I keep going?'
Engel: I wouldn’t say it scares me or changes my perspective. I accepted this kind of life long ago, so I know what the dangers are. What I really feel today is a tragic loss for these colleagues.
It’s an incredible loss for their families, Chris was about to get married. Yes, it could happen to any of us, but yesterday it happened to them. It’s such a terrible event. My heart goes out not only to them individually, but to their families.
They were both young but so experienced. And there is nothing you can really do when you are running around in a war zone and people are firing shells from the sky and RPGs on the streets. You can take precautions – and I’m sure they did try to take cover – but you need to be there to get those images and to tell the story of what’s going on. Sometimes you can’t avoid the dangers and you are just exposed.
The whole point of going to these places seems to be the hope that the stories and pictures have an impact? Is that what keeps people going?
Engel: I think we are all to a degree motivated by the fact that people will see these images and understand what war is all about. That people will understand what is happening right now. The costs that are associated with our military actions or military inactions. And I think that desire to expose current events for what they are motivates us.
No one who is professional – and these two were certainly professional – is motivated by some sort of chasing of a thrill or the adrenaline rush. Both Tim and Chris had been out there long enough that any naïve desire to chase adrenaline was long gone.
These were serious people who were professional and had tremendous experience. Maybe some people start out with the excitement of war – it seems new, it seems exciting, running around with flak jackets behind enemy lines. Once you’ve done that once or twice and you decide to stick with it, you are sticking with it not because you are chasing adrenaline, it’s because you believe what you are doing is important.
Otherwise, you could go bungee jumping for a living – it gives you much more of a rush and it is relatively safer. For these guys that’s not what it was about.
The amazing thing about Libya is that you’ve got people who are really experienced – the New York Times journalists who were detained by Gadhafi’s forces and abused were among the most experienced reporters you could get. Tim and Chris were also among the most experienced war photographers that you are going to find anywhere. That is certainly sobering, but at the end of the day it is just more tragic. They are a loss to their families and a loss to journalism.
But would the world be worse off if people didn’t have access to war zones and didn’t know what was going on in places like Misrata? Who would benefit from that? I can only imagine it would be war criminals, murderers, rapists, dictators, war profiteers – they would be the ones who would benefit by a lack of exposure in conflict zones.
We are heading into Tripoli now. Obviously when something like this happens you have to take precautions and think about what you are heading into. But I don’t think you are going to see a mass exodus quitting their profession.
I think people are mourning this loss. Certainly people are reflecting on the loss of a friend, a loss to our very tightly knit, but dwindling community. People are just very sorry about what happened.
Related links:
See a slideshow of Tim Hetherington's photographs
See a slideshow of Chris Hondros images from Libya
PhotoBlog: A loss for photojournalism



Thank you Richard Engel. For doing what you do. And for telling us why you do it.
"Photojournalist" = photographer. "Law Enforcement Officer" = policeman. I'm sure he is a nice exciting guy, but he is not a journalist. He does not make his living writing. He is a photographer, just like they were 50 years ago.
A photojournalist is someone who tells stories with visuals. You are confusing the word journalist with reporter. Reporters make their living telling stories with words.
Are you kidding? that is why is called photojournalist. Don't you understand that an image can tell so much more or the same as million of words. And these guys did incredible work. Don't try to demerit their wonderful work please.
Look up journalist in the on-line Websters. WRITERS. These guys were photographers - picture takers. Lets not INVENT a new professional name just to make it seem lofty. Give ANYONE a Kodak Brownie and they can do as well - as picture takers. Journalists are reporters who WRITE descriptions and analyses, not photographers. They are even named as photographers in the article. I guess if I take a picture of my neighbor's house on fire, and I write on it "Eric's House On Fire", then I is a puhhotojournalist - ehhh - NOT !!
The important thing is that these people went into these war zones willingly. People only go there for at least one of these five reasons, a sense of duty, stupidity, courage, madness, and/or fear.
Richard Engel's explanation clearly tells us what it is all about for these professionals. If they were not there we would never see the experience our soldiers and civilians in those areas go through. These professionals do an exemplary job. They are the best at their craft and it shows in every photo, every article. That we have lost so many is heartbreaking. That we continue to need men and women to report in these areas is a sad comment on where the world stands.
My sympathies go out to the families of these two talented and brave men. Their work will live on and will continue to influence what we believe about war. The loss their families feel cannot be healed.
I don't wan to see it! It's an effin war zone! What do you have some kind of divine right to get your curiosity satisfied? You want to see what's happening in a war zone then pick up a rifle and join the cause, otherwise stay out.
PauleyBleeker - it is the person who doesn't want to see that won't acknowledge what is happening. Because of those who want to pretend nothing is happening, it will continue to go on. When we all decide the only way to stop seeing it is to stop it from happening, then we win. How sad you don't realize the importance of these people's work. It has nothing to do with curiosity. It has to do with reality.
W.Goin,
IF you need to see so dam bad then do pick up a rifle and join forces with one side or the other.
It is a war zone you idiot! It is not some jackass reality show. The enemy sees our soldiers, their weapons, their locations and their numbers because of these TRAITORS. They should be arrested for being in a war zone. The DOD has thier own photojounalists on site to document whatever may need to be documented. These jerks are hired guns working for who knows who.
Absolutely, iamthefredman!!! The military and their boss, the government, will tell us if we need to know anything. We should trust our leaders.
He had no clue, as do most non military people, of what war is! He was a victim of politicians and our so-called media.
1,000 others could do this job and get the same if not better results. These guys just had connections. Their work doesn't even come close to the work we saw coming out of 'Nam. Besides, unlike the press during the Vietnam War, these guys and their peers, are - for all intents and purposes - part of Washington's and Wall Streets war machine anyway. Not "heros" doing "good". That right there makes their work pointless.
The ultimate answer to this question is of course....MONEY. From the sound guy, camera man, reporter, to the network......MONEY.
Fame.
Money, greed, and alcoholic impedance! Their personal quest for more money - The intestinal greed of their publishers to sell more and more of "mans inhumanity to man," for profit - And their own alcoholic impedance, they just can't get a "woodie" without the adrenalin rush, alcohol consumption in huge quantity's, and the aroma of war!
Some people are pathetic here and have no heart or spirit or understand nothing about a person's passion in life.
Why did the chicken cross the road" Probably because it could. People live on this planet for a very short period of time and make choices in life because they can.
Most journalists don't risk their lives in war zones: they stick it out in the 5-star hotel bar (sometimes not even in the country being covered), stay behind the green line, go out in massive armored convoys (if they're big enough: cf. Brian Williams), or are embedded. The independent teams of journalists willing to walk away from their minders and actually put their lives on the line are unique and wonderful. If only their editors were as willing to show what they discover.
Answer: Most journalists of the Clinton and Post Clinton era have become accustomed to doing questionable journalism, frocked with danger of failing to "promote the left" in a temporary lapse in judgment that might cause them to look like a real non-biased journalist meaning sure loss of gainful employment as a journalist in Obamaville.
STexan - how totally clueless you are. And, how pathetic to try to lessen the importance of the work these men and women do by your senseless drivel and your need to rant with your political bias.
Looks like the "West" will now be asked to help rebuild the country or countries. Libya looks like it is quite a bit destroyed. My God, it will take something like billions to make these buildings usable again.
The "West" includes all countries that are civilized except Russia, the middle east, southeast Asia, China, the Koreas and Pacific Islands. Oh, I forgot South America. The USA does not have a energy policy or foreign policy. Incredible as that is.
I have not seen the US attack Brazil for example. No my friend each country is responsible for their own and their people and most of the middle east abuses their people. A bunch of lunatics running the oil and the wealth. Actually a lot of those citizens from those countries adore the West and want to be in some respect like it but not loose their culture completely. They are looking for a balance. It is time to stop blaming the West all the time. If they did not have thieves , extremist and bad people in power those countries would be stable and everyone would be happy.
john pantal and john pantal banned. Multiples. Don't register another account while on suspension.
"Why do journalists risk their lives in war zones" … why did Lara Logan risk her life walking into the Muslim mob of Tahrir Square the night Mubarak stepped down? These people are blinded by their own political correctness and MSM pro-Islam propaganda; they think because the "rebels" say they are fighting for "freedom" and "democracy" they mean they fight for the same "freedom" and "democracy" these western journalists enjoyed in their own countries. They should know the "democracy" the rebels fight for is "Islamic democracy"; one vote, one candidate, one outcome: "Islamic freedom" (i.e. perfect slavery to Allah; his jihad, his sharia law and his zakat collecting henchmen).
For propaganda purposes these infidel journalists could just as well been killed by the rebels as they could have been killed by Qadhafi's forces; each side blaming the other for the killings. And these people who say "we need to know" what's going on in Misrata therefore we need journalists there aren't making any sense. Fighting is going on in Misrata, people are being killed. The picture is the same in all wars.
They do it because like the US they just can not keep fron sticking their noses where they don't belong.
Most of them can't live without seeing their name in the press & are willing to take any foolhardy risk to achieve that goal.
That s a stupid question to ask!?
it's call War zone, what do you expect?
if you want to cover the ugly side of any war, there are always 50/50 chance of been killed!
At any war, there are always people who will killed them from STOPPING them from showing the real truth of what goes on! HELLO!!
Some times the bad people will killed them in a crossfire and use that as excuse to back themselves HELLO!!
Why? because they are dripping with hubris! they think they can change things! Look what has changed with Obama! Holly Shxt! the change is killing us, and it killed them, they wanted to cover the Obama war, created by Hillary and the other skirts on Obama's staff, Obama is PW! but, he is getting our sons and daughters killed because he does not know what he is doing.
They do it for the possibility of recognition and the Pulitzer prize.
For the money, and somebody has to do it and that limits it to a few greedy people that will risk limbs or even life for a few bucks. Beats Mc Donolds and going home everynight wanting to kill yourself, this job you have dirty stupid inbreed folks that smell helping you end it all. Kind of like at Mc Donolds same people different religion.
They do it because human suffering sells media. They do it for notariety - to make a name for themselves. It is not necessary to be in the middle of a hurricane to report on it any more than a reporter must put himself in the middle of a war to tell the people what is going on. It is not necessary for a reporter to become a part of the story, or, for that matter, to attempt to influence what or how we think. On more than one occaision, sensitive, tactical information has been broadcast without concern for our troops. I am very sorry these journalists got killed, but they did not have to be there, and most likely, should not have been allowed to be imbedded. I question wether or not we really need that much detail in a news report.
Excuse me you were not paying them right? These people had a passion for this and they died doing what they loved. This is not a moment to judge is a moment to shut the @!$%# up.
just one word sums it up, STUPIDITY
I've seen quite enough fire fights from enough wars to last a lifetime. All war correspondents can feel free to take a vacation anytime they want.
"Why do Jornalists risk their lives in war zones ?" Hmmmm......That's a toughie but, here's my best shot. . . . . .Because all the monkies in the world already have jobs ?????
At the behest of their employers, they seek to satisfy the voyeurs safely ensconced within cookie cutter homes before 72 inch HDTV with surround sound lusting for the ultimate reality show.
I am in college studying to be a journalist and understand that both these men died doing what they loved doing. For those who said they did it for the money, journalism is not done for the money. A teacher of mine in high school told me if I wanted to make money, not to go into journalism. I don't care about that sort of thing, which makes my journalism professors happy. I love the news, my classes, etc. and can't picture learning to be something else. May both these men RIP and god bless them, their families, and their fellow war reporters.
jounalism is awsome but there is a difference when you willing put your self in harms way in a place thats too dangerous for you to be in ,yes we want to see the pic's of whats going on but when is enough enough there is a limit because when we die,are families and friends will be the one that suffer the most i ask my myself the question i could see dying for a cause to save humanity !!!!!!like Jesus did for us but this cause isnot worth you cutting your life short!!!!!!!!
NewEnglandNewsGal-
I wish you the best of success in your chosen profession. Stay safe and stay honest, and grow a thick skin. For the vast majority of journalists, it's neither well paid nor glamourous, but it is a profession that's demanding of your commitment, just like medicine and law.