
Mohamed Muslemany/ NBC News
Egyptians in Cairo's Tahrir Square cheer the news that former President Hosni Mubarak has been detained while his alleged crimes are investigated on Wednesday.
CAIRO – Hours after it was announced that Egypt’s former President Hosni Mubarak and his sons Alaa and Gamal had been detained, an animated crowd gathered in Cairo’s Tahrir Square to discuss the news.
Mubarak, swept out after nearly 30 years in power by an 18-day people’s revolt, is being detained in a Sharm el-Sheikh hospital while he is investigated on accusations of corruption and abuse of authority. Investigators are looking into the killing of protesters during the popular uprising, the embezzlement of public funds and abuse of power. His sons are also being held in Tora Prison near a suburb of Cairo. They have all denied any wrongdoing.
Abdullah Gad, a government employee, said he came every Friday to protest during the revolution. He was so happy when he woke up to the news of Mubarak’s detention that he hopped on a train and traveled two hours to Tahrir Square. His wife, a teacher, left work to celebrate with family.
“I am very, very happy,” said Gad. “The best thing is that his sons went [to jail] before him because they are the reason for the destruction of this country.” He added: “I hope he is sentenced to death… He was no good. He killed people.”
Those comments were echoed by others in the square.
“I am so happy. It’s like a dream,” said a member of the Youth for Change group who wanted to remain anonymous. “We never expected this. We were only insisting that the regime be changed. The process should move quickly so that we can regain stability and prove that the military is serious about the process.”
Mohamed Abdel Rahman works in the oil sector and believes that Mubarak lined his pockets with profits from the industry.
“We used to pray we would not find oil because the profits went to foreign oil companies and the price of oil and gas was kept low. The money from the Suez Canal, oil and gas, gold mines was transferred to the presidency,” said Abdel Rahman. “The occupation of Egypt for 300 years did not top what Mubarak did in 30. He managed to destroy national unity.”
“Mubarak can’t fool the people” said Mahmoud Shahin, a public relations director, who thinks the former president is faking illness to avoid incarceration. “If the doctors say he is sick, we will know they are collaborating with him.”
Sabry, who didn’t give his last name, applauded the detentions but warned that the focus on imprisoning ex-officials while allowing the economy to flounder would only hurt the majority. “They will keep arresting one after another. Who will remain? There is nothing left, no work, no food for the kids. I have nothing! After ten years everybody will be arrested and there will be five million without food.”
A show of hands among the 20 bystanders who had gathered to discuss Mubarak with this reporter showed the vast majority in support of the death penalty.
One lone voice, a sweet-faced university student, spoke up for the former leader.
“Mubarak must be innocent because he never fled Egypt,” he reasoned.
A half-mile away, a small demonstration of about 30 people rallied for Mubarak’s innocence in front of the Egyptian state television building.
“The people want the freedom of the president,” they chanted, protesting Mubarak’s detention.
“He was our president for 30 years. We should first look at the good he has done. There was a conspiracy against him,” a young woman with tears in her eyes defiantly insisted.
“We lived in security when he was there,” said housewife Faten Awa. She blamed a recent rise in crime on Mubarak’s absence. “My house has been robbed. Cars are being stolen, girls are being raped, they have allowed the thugs on us. We want the president back.”
But Ahmed Maher, a leader of the April 6 opposition movement that helped engineer the revolution who was reached by phone, saw the judicial decision as a validation and a warning to other Arab despots.
“We were living for this moment, and because of the arrests and oppression we faced, we knew this day was coming. This is a great message to other leaders. They should know if the revolution starts, nothing will stop it.”
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Gee, that's great and inspirational etc but so why is the egyptian millitary still opening fire on protesters and subjecting female protesters to 'virginity tests' and other barbaric remnants of Mulbarakism are still in effect? The revolution has a long way to go.
Huh. That's a really interesting story. But where the HELL is MSNBC's coverage of THIS: "Fukishima Radiation Taints US Milk Supplies At Levels 300% Higher Than EPA Maximums"
Not to worry, I drank it all. Now I glow in the dark too.
Perhaps the arrest of Mubarek and his sons for official corruption will encourage other nations to arrest former leaders who have plundered their national treasuries to enrich themselves and their cronies too? There sure was a whole lot of official corruption involved in our going to war in Iraq, as well as a whole lot of gross over-charging and missing funds while we were there too, while Dick Cheney's own company went from near bankruptcy to a very profitable corporation in record time, thanks in part to a secret and very profitable no-bid contract awarded behind closed doors well before the first shot was even fired.
Perhaps because it is actually 5,000 times below risk levels?
Ghadafi, are u watching? Get out now while u can, wait, and this is what will happen to u.
Gadhafi could possibly win his revolt.
Moarmar has more money than NATO or America. He has cash America only has Chinese credit cards.
His crimes are no greater or less than those dating back to the Egyptian Pharohs. He was a benovolent dictator for 30 years in Egypt, and brought it stability and peace--and kept his promises internationally. He was a friend to America--and should not be cast as a criminal or forgotten by us. He should be given peace in his own land, as he would like as a true Egyptian. That which he and his family has stolen from the people should be returned, if they can be accounted for. Let us not salute a bunch of young protesters who do not know what they are doing or want. Egypt, with these protesters, is open to the devil.
Dan - I agree with your comments. It seems that most don't ever learn from history.
I agree, be careful what you wish for. I have never, ever heard the US under any president complain about Mubarak and then they happily through him under the bus the moment protesters came out shouting for his death. The reason why China and Russia stay on the sidelines is because if that sort of thing happened in their country the military would take care of those protesters for trying to overthrow the government. So will Obama peacefully go if protesters ask for him to leave given that he just engaged the US in yet another ME war without talking it over with those of us that will be paying for the Libyan war?
The truth is we seek stability however that happens, because regime changes are very difficult and securing democracy means different things to different people.
A criminal, even though the national leader, should pay for his crimes. Being president, pharoah, etc., does not entitle anyone to steal the publics' money.
Mubarak did not leave power peacefully, the death estimates for the Egyptian uprising range from 300 to 800. The reason we did not witness a Libya style blood bath is because the Egyptian army made it clear from the beginning that is was not going to fire ton the protesters and not because the "benevolent" Mubarak was peaceful.
I use to live before moving to Canada. Under Mubarak rule the quality of life decreased, poverty increased, corruption became a normal factor of life and people were afraid of the police and state security service. This also tortured and jailed the opposition.
None of the people who praise Mubarak here lived under his rule.
By the way, l don't want to hear people say they also have Egyptian experience because they visited or lived in Egypt as an expat. only Egyptian who lived in Egypt as Egyptian (didn't have the option to fly back to the US) can judge Mubarak, and the vast majority of Egyptian hate this guy.
I agree, Dan Kin
Dan I a afraid what is happening to Mubarak is known as political expediency.
Dan...well said! A benovilent dictator is ever so much better than mob rule.
The Egyptian people need to slow down on the celebrations and start looking at what their military and the Muslim Brotherhood are up to!!!
How easily are we led by our own hunger and the heat of others, for change? And when the excitement subsides and the reality of our actions becomes evident, we don’t like it. This may become more and more apparent as time goes by. A dream that never was……..
This always reminded me all too clearly of the Russian Revolution...where the idealistic protesters were replaced by the brutal Bolsheviks, who murdered the Czar and his children. Sure, the Czar was pretty bad...but his replacements were a whole lot worse.
Well said cecilia. My centiments exactly.
This "revolution" was going the way of the Iranian revolution. I warned against the consequences when many here were waving their pompoms and cheering the Egyptian to fight for their "democracy and freedom".
The replacements are often more brutal and more murderous than the dictators.
When this first happened, I made the comment that a Military that doesn't fire upon their own people is subservient to its people will determine whether these people get a true Democracy or something else. The Military in the beginning did stand between the old Government and the rebels.
Not anymore. Does this then mean that these people will get a substitute for Mubarek in the form of another dictator? It could be. I think as you all above have stated, these folks need to be very wary of the Military at this point.
The Military needs to show some restraint if they want to keep this a civil - Civil Uprising.
All I know is, somewhere along the line, this will cost me money and lots of it. Is no one concerned about the comment that he was selling 'their' oil cheaply?
I agree with those who said about the President being a benevolent Dictator who kept peace and stability in his country for 30 years and I also agree with those who said the replacement government could be worse, eg on the Iranian model.
I am NOT impressed with those horrible comments about sentencing the President to death. An eye for an eye does not work. We have to put the past behind us and start to work together and putting Mr Mubarak is not going to achieve anything. After all he is almost 83 and who is going to shoot or hang an old man, even such a "young" 83 as Mr Mubarak. He has said he did not commit these crimes and nothing has been proved. He does have years of experience in public affairs and actually could be quite useful advising these young people who have no knowledge of being in Government.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes before young Egyptians that are unemployed, highly educated and now flush with success at having overturned the man they blame for their woes, start shaking their shoes at their new military dictatorship.
Here's a look at how young Egyptians are suffering from unemployment levels that rival those seen during the Great Depression:
http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/02/egypt-unemployed-population-cohort.html
"Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons! The bloody phrase from the Marseillaise (didn't look up the spellign - not one of my strong points.
Mubarak could pass for Louis XVI, though he makes a more convincing Louis XIV. His wife couldn't pass for Marie Antoinette, because the poor have plenty of very cheap subsidized bread in Egypt.
Something must be wrong if I find myself agreeing with Farideh Karshanian - commenting above - sort of like the US cooperating with the Soviets during WWII - not sure which one of us represents the Soviets - her I hope.
My recommendation is to investigate and recoup the money if they find some was stolen, but don't put Mubarak in jail. Compared to any other leader in the Middle East, he performed pretty well - just stayed too long. If the youth want to get rid of the privileged classes who made rules to benefit themselves, they will have to go after the rest of the military as well as Mubarak, a quest that could have bloody consequences.
If a bit of money has been siphoned off e.g. the $1.5 annual US weapons subsidy to Egypt, this is only natural in any third world country. Easy to do with a little slightly illegal collusion with suppliers and the Egyptian public doesn't lose anything - just have a few less weapons in the annual American gift. The next government won't be better in that respect.
But people can hope for somewhat more transparent rules (rather than socialist control and favoritism for the elite) and more freedom of expression. But now the military seems to be cracking down on them as well. Ultimately if they are challenging some folks in authority pocketing some money, they will have to go after the military as well. Is it worth it? I would suggest caution and prudence. If there has been clearly illegal torture, prosecute the people that did it and censure Mubarak - but putting him in jail (like putting Nixon or Bush in jail) wouldn't be for the good of the country.
I feel the Army Council just caved into the Tahrir Square protestors, thinking that by detaining Mr Mubarak, the Square would return to normal. However, if you give in once to this type of pressure, you will end up doing it again and again. The protestors will just ask for more and more and groups like the Muslim Brotherhood will jump onto the bandwagon. Already there are those calling for closer links with Iran.
As for the author of a newly issued book telling us that he spoke to some of the President's school friends (can't be too many about as the President is nearly 83) and they said he was always dishonest and evil and spied for the Devil and all, - well why did it take him 30 years to tell us this. Of course, I know - when someone is down, kick him and sell the kind of sleaze that would appeal to the masses. If you watch all these You Tube videos of Mr Mubarak, it can be seen he is not as portrayed in that book and was (is) a very modest man who did not seek to flaunt himself or his family and nor was he staying in a "Presidential Palace" in Sharm-el-Sheikh but a modest villa. Do not always believe what is in the media.
I will bet you anything that the people that will take over Egypt will be 10 times worse than Mubarak after all is said and done. Muslims are muslims are muslims, they all hate us and want us dead, and they are all a bunch of nut cases, and i defy anyone to tell me different. When a muslim will denounce the murder of children in a school bus, then will i listen to a muslim. But you see, if you are not muslim, they want you dead. Egypt will be a mess in a few years, watch. What we really need to do is take out Iran, and quit fooling around with a bunch of camel jockyes in Libya.
Jeff, you are completely wrong about all Muslims and about Iran.
I agree, you are wrong.
Why do you expect ordinary Muslims to constantly protest extremism to prove themselves when you aren't doing that yourself?
Muslims have lost more loved ones to extremists than anyone else.
your party has brainwashed you.... so sad
Yeah, it's very obvious I'm the one who has succumbed to paranoid propaganda and hate isn't it?
The message being sent to the leaders of the world is: do not step aside peacefully, but fight, take as much wealth as you can and destroy all you can who appose, so they can offer you a retirement in some far off country of the world with amnesty and billions of dollars in peace settlement.???? The man did wrong, then he stepped aside for his country, and his country will kill him and have nothing to gain from it.... They should be happy that he loves Egypt and I would suggest they leave him in such an amazing country to live out the remainder of his years, he is no threat, if fact the love for his country is an asset.
Time will tell, Egypt's military and people seem quite unitied at the moment, more so than I thought possible. Strength from adversity might just apply.
one day even allah will have to bend his knee to the king of kings and the lord of lords.the one true god.
You do realize they are different versions of the same diety right?
Islam considers Judaism and Christianity to be legitimate connected religions although Christianity is a bastardized version.
Most christians that I have met don't actually study theology, or the histroy thereof. However, that doesn't stop them from regularly posting comments in which they regurgitate idioms and parables that they think sound cool...even if they don't really get the meaning. Oh well. It's no wonder we can't understand each other, we scarcely try to understand ourselves...
@Victoria: What r u talking about? Allah (God to me) will never have to "bend his knee to the king of kings" I'm a Christian & have a great deal of respect for other religions. My religion was given to us by the only Son of the ALLmighty God. Because He is ALL POWERFULL, in my shared opinion, NO ONE, or nothing will ever subjugate Him. @Dosh: watch what you say. Jesus Christ was & IS GOD, also, NOT a bastard. I hope you both are not talking about worshipping the devil. If you are, I feelo sorry for you & remember you in my prayers. It's no wonder this world is so sick, with people like you espousing the things you do!
Some of you guys seem to want an extremist theocracy to replace him just so you can say "I told you so!"
I don't think the people of Egypt or any of the other countries undergoing change have much interest in one. The common refrain you hear from them is that they want freedom, equality, and a modern government so they can rule themselves.
Give it time.
Hmm - Allah means God in Arabic - the Christian Arabs also refer to Allah as their God. So if the more gentle, tolerant and moderate son will change the tough policies of the father that might be similar to the situation in
Syria, but not in Egypt, where the sons are discredited and in jail.
Hopefully radical religious fanatics like Victoria above won't come to power in Egypt. Most of the Mediterranean Arab countries after independence chose socialism and opposed an oppressed Muslim fundamentalist fanatics. The socialists weren't very big on human rights, unfortunately even after almost everyone worldwide realized that socialism as an economic system didn't work very well.
Mubarak should face the death penalty.
Mubarak and his sons are part of a dynasty based on corruption, abuse of power, outright thievery of public funds and mass assassinations. They are billionaires not because they are entrepreneurs, but because they used their illegitimate positions to steal from their own people, while they massacred them over the last thirty years.
They should be stripped of their wealth worldwide, while they are tried for treason and murder. The death penalty should not be ruled out to set an example in the Arab world.
This same road should be applied to Assad of Syria, an assassin; Saleh; Gadhafi, etc.
Finally, the idea of asylum in any country in the world for these murderers should be ruled out. The only place for them is the International Penal Court, and then the death penalty.
Sort of like Cheney and Haliburton. See if you can find a country anywhere that doesn't have an elite that profits from special favors they create for themselves.
You're never going to expect it coming is the @!$%#in sad thing.
Meaningful reform toward the perception of principle by our blood soaked bitch means taking torture out of the cell and slowly moving it into the ER where everyone involved is given just enough deniability not to conclusively assume that the global pile of @!$%# running through their own head is directly responsible.
That is the control standard for America, where it helps to have the people directly involved also be the piss soaked fly traps for all the crazy @!$%# they hear as a result of them.
Good luck for a better life...
It's a beutiful vision Obama!
When the Egyptian people overthrew the Mubarak dictatorship they thought they were going to be getting freedom and democracy. What the Egyptians are going to end up with is a radical Islamic tyranny so brutal and oppressive that it will make them wish for Mubarak's return. Islamic extremists want to dominate the world and end all religions other than their perverted version of Islam. Once they control Egypt, the whole Middle East will fall into their clutches. That will be a tragic day for Egypt as well as for all of Western civilization.
How would you like to live in Israel these days? They must feel like Indiana Jones when he was in the Pyramid . Surrounded by snakes.
The Inmates are running the Asylum now.