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STRINGER/ITALY / Reuters
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi reacts during a news conference at Chigi Palace in Rome on Sept.23, 2010.
By NBC News’ Claudio Lavanga
Did you hear the one about Silvio and the Moroccan belly dancer?
Unfortunately, for the 74-year-old Italian leader, most of Italy has – and the people are not pleased.
A confidential new document containing lurid details about the investigation into the nature of Silvio Berlusconi’s relationship with Karima El Mahroug, an under-aged Moroccan belly dancer nicknamed “Ruby the Heart-Stealer,” could be the final straw for the seemingly indestructible Italian leader.
The 389-page investigation, leaked on the Web this week, contains wire taps of phone conversations full of candid details about backdoor dealings and wild parties that suggest the prime minister has lived a life of unconstrained debauchery aided by an entourage of teenage showgirls, television presenters and talent-scouts.
And it has led to a criminal investigation.
Prosecutors allege that Berlusconi paid for sex with the underage teen and then lied to authorities in order to cover it up.
The lengthy dossier was presented to Italy’s parliament on Monday in order to get special permission to search some of Berlusconi’s properties. Parliament said it will take at least a week to digest all of the information and issue a decision.
Some of the salacious quotes from the leaked wire tap include:
• “There were orgies in there – not with drugs, as far as I know. But they were all drinking, half undressed. Berlusconi started singing and telling jokes. Three [men] and 28 girls. By the end . . . the girls had no bras on and were wearing only those tight knickers.”
- Carlo Ferrigno, a former head of a police intelligence service and anti-racketeering commissioner
• “It’s unbelievable. You don’t know. All of them call him ‘love’ or ‘darling.’ You can’t begin to imagine what goes on there. The papers don’t tell the half of it, even when they’re massacring him.”
- An unnamed party guest
Antonio Calanni / AP
Karima El Mahroug, an under-aged Moroccan belly dancer nicknamed “Ruby the Heart-Stealer,” whose encounters with Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi are at the base of a prostitution probe which is rocking Italian politics, is interviewed for a TV show in Milan, Italy, on Wednesday.
• “[Berlusconi] called me and said, ‘Ruby, I’ll give you whatever amount you want. I’ll pay you. I’ll cover you in gold, but the important thing is to keep everything under wraps. Don’t say a thing to anyone.’”
- Karima El Mahroug, aka “Ruby the Heart Stealer,” to former boyfriend Sergio Corsaro on Oct. 7, 2010
• “I told Silvio I wanted 5 million euros for all this. He said that I should just keep making things up and pretend I’m mad – but not reveal anything and stay quiet.”
- El Mahroug to a friend
• “You either do everything or you take a taxi and leave. It’s a real whorehouse there. Berlusconi is touching all the girls’ bottoms. It’s worse than the papers say.”
- Unidentified girl who went to party, to a friend
• “If you do these things in your own bedroom, fine. But in front of everyone else? I ask how [he] can go to work the next day?”
- Unidentified girl who went to party to a friend
• “I thought he’d put on weight; he looked uglier. Last year, [Berlusconi] was looking fitter; now he’s looking over the hill. And he’s ugly with it. He’s just got to cough up. Let’s hope he’s more generous.”
- Showgirl Imma De Vivo, to her twin sister, Eleonora, on Sept. 25, 2010
• “I’ve been going to the prime minister’s house since I was 16 years old, but I have always denied everything to protect him.”
- El Mahroug to a friend on Oct. 26, 2010
• “She [El Mahroug] said she was very friendly with the Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. She often went to his house for dinner, to sing, dance, and she had sex with him, for which he gave her lots of money.”
- El Mahroug's roommate, Caterina Pasquina, to investigators
‘The Heart-stealer’
It all started with a minor incident that quickly snowballed into one of Italy’s biggest political scandal: In May of last year, El Mahroug, a runaway teenager, was arrested on suspicion of theft in the northern city of Milan.
While the police looked into the report that she stole thousands of euros and expensive watches from an Italian woman at a beauty parlour she briefly worked for, they thought they were dealing with a minor who got herself in trouble after running away from her family in Sicily. But even before they managed to contact her parents, they received a call from the most unlikely of guardian: Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.
ALESSANDRO GAROFALO / Reuters
Nicole Minetti smiles during a meeting at the Lombardy regional headquarters in Milan on Jan. 18.
From Paris, he said that she was the niece of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and asked for her immediate release in order to avoid a diplomatic incident. The police obeyed without asking questions, and handed the girl over to another shady character in Berlusconi’s entourage: Nicole Minetti, a former showgirl and dental hygienist who treated Berlusconi’s injuries after he was attacked with a marble statue in 2009, and who was elected in the regional elections for his People of Freedom’s Party months later.
When it became clear that El Mahroug wasn’t related to the Egyptian president, and in fact wasn’t Egyptian at all, she was a 17-year-old Moroccan, investigators asked: Why would the prime minister go to such lengths, including lying to the police, to ensure the release of an unrelated teenager?
Cash, diamonds and Bunga-Bunga
Back in September 2009, El Mahroug wasn’t a heart stealer, but was dreaming of becoming one.
She hit the catwalk at a local beauty contest in a small town in Sicily hoping her Mediterranean beauty would propel her into the world of show business, but only managed to win a minor ribbon.
However, one of the judges at the contest was said to be 80-year-old Emilio Fede, a trusted friend of Berlusconi and a journalist who makes no secret of his staunch support for the prime minister during his newscasts on Italy’s Channel 4.
According to El Mahroug’s testimony, she met Fede through Lele Mora, a show business talent-scout and close aide of Berlusconi, and was later invited to Arcore, Berlusconi’s private residence on the outskirts of Milan.
At first, she told investigators, she was invited for dinner and showered with expensive presents, such as 7,000 euros (about $9,400) and a diamond necklace. During one of her dinners at Berlusconi’s residence, she claims to have attended one of his after-parties, the infamous “bunga-bunga,” an erotic ritual that she says Berlusconi learnt from his friend Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader.
While El Mahroug has always maintained that she never had sex with the prime minister, she told magistrates that the bunga-bunga parties were hardcore orgies with tens of skimpily-dressed or naked aspiring showgirls flirting with the prime minister, who later would choose whom to have sex with.
Nevertheless, the main question investigators are looking into is: Was the prime minister aware that El Mahroug was underage?
From BLTWY: How to party like Silvio Berlusconi
‘I just wanted to help’
When confronted about the allegations, Berlusconi initially downplayed the incident by claiming he took pity on the teenager and simply wanted to help her out. But magistrates following the case believe that his charitable work went beyond giving El Mahroug another shot at freedom and showering her with expensive presents.
Information about her movements, obtained by investigators who monitored her mobile phone, show that El Mahroug downplayed the extent of her relationship with the prime minister.
Instead of attending only a few parties, as El Mahroug claimed, the data revealed she spent whole weekends in Berlusconi’s private residence without leaving the premises, raising questions over the real nature of their relationship.
In Italy, paying for sex with an under-aged woman is a crime punishable with a maximum sentence of three years in prison.
Is Berlusconi a projection of the average Italian?
When El Mahroug's scandal made headlines at the end of last year, it was easy to believe the prime minister would sail through the latest crisis in his typical defiant fashion. After all, it wasn’t the first time he was accused of having had sex with a prostitute, nor was it the first time his relationship with teenagers was called into question.
In 2009, an escort named Patrizia D'Addario claimed to have slept with Berlusconi at his Rome residence and released secret recordings of their conversations, which seemed to support her claim.
The same year, his wife filed for divorce saying she could no longer be with a man who “consorts with minors” after it emerged he attended the 18th birthday party of an aspiring model, Noemi Letizia. Scores of other women, some claiming to be prostitutes, have since come forward claiming to have attended Berlusconi’s parties.
And yet Italians don’t seem to mind. Most of his supporters have accepted his theory that he is the victim of a plot by “communist magistrates” who are out to get him.
But his apparent invincibility, according to one of sociologist Franco Ferrarotti, comes from the fact he is the projection of what most Italians would like to be.
“They see in him a lot of what they are,” Ferrarotti told msnbc.com. “Italians are hypocrites by nature: In public, they condemn his action. But in the privacy of their own bedroom, they are very, very liberal.”
Can the invincible Berlusconi survive this one?
Everyone is equal before the law. But is Berlusconi “more equal” than others?
The investigation was announced just hours after Italy’s Constitutional Court ruled as unlawful parts of an immunity law that would have prevented Berlusconi from going on trial.
Faced with mounting pressure and the prospect of prosecution, Berlusconi has defended himself in typical fashion: by appearing on television.
As a media mogul, Berlusconi is credited with both building his wealth and his political fortunes on the exploitation of his three commercial television channels. So it didn’t come to anyone’s surprise when once again he professed his innocence to Italians by broadcasting a video message.
"There's nothing I should be ashamed of,” he said in the pre-recorded message. “I would like to go on trial immediately, but with impartial judges, not with prosecutors who want to use this case as a means of political fight."
The lower house of parliament now has one month to consider the request to search Berlusconi’s premises to find evidence against him.
But one thing is certain: Despite the fact he is the man who introduced variety shows, quiz games and drama serials to Italian audiences, no soap opera can match the twist and turns of his life.
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must be Slick Willies cousin
I find it funny how Clinton's critics think "Slick Willy" did anything other than get a BJ or 2 from a consenting adult. Was it morally wrong? Maybe. It certainly wasn't considerate towards his wife.
Clinton did nothing illegal, and he should have told any inquiries about his relations outside of his marriage to f*ck off, or refused to answer.
Cheating on a spouse or significant other is almost part of mainstream culture here in America,
McCain did it, Gingrich did it, and so do many others on BOTH sides of the aisle.
American Lobo;
So you are saying that the RePubicans are like the P.M. in Italy? Glad to here it.
Why pay for sex in the USA or any country. The politicians profit from new blogs. The I swear I didn't do it rant from Sweet Willie Clinton brought huge sales for Monicas knee pads.
Smile...whip cream at Wally world is cheaper and TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS..
AMEN
American Lobo - Lying under oath is illegal. All slick willy had to do was say : "I did it, so what?". But he didn't.
Clearly he wasn't the brightest. But really good at the political game.
I've got nothing against this guy, I think it's pretty funny.
These two women (and the rest he's been connected with) are super hot and I'm finding it hard to believe that I am the only one on her admitting this.
This guy is living the dream while the "holier-than-thoughs" are condemning his behavior like their sh1t doesn't stink. Would I want him as my PM representing me? No. But man, this guy is classic Italian politician to the core.
Really, looking at this 'little girl' I can finally see one guy that could honestly say, "I didn't know she was (fill in age)!!!" THIS is an "underage" girl???
PLEASE! Some of you above...STOP with the politics for just once?
Clinton lied under oath which is, indeed, a crime.
Nope D.Man, I'm not the Taliban, the the belly dancer is beautiful. But not to fear, Raquel Welch is beautiful too, she is 70 something. Both can shower me with gifts, if that's what it's called now-a-days. The old guy is ugly however. 7 grand seems a little low , must have been a lot of drugs ans alcohol involved.
D.Man, its not the women in and of themselves I would condem the guy for, its the marital infidelity, and the age of some of the women that I would. Being unfaithful, though not illegal, is wrong(although that fact can be debated on the merits of prior consent to the other half), and frankly nobodies business if you want my opinion, but the underaged girls, now that is just wrong and illegal, and that is the law's business.
Ryan, you are right, it is wrong to lie under oath, and yes he should have come out and said it. The problem is, those on the right were not just denouncing him because he lied under oath, they were going after him for the very act itself, which, although moral wrong, was nobodies business to begin with.
wow, He has been pimpin sense pimpin been pimpin!!!!
Nicole Minetti is smokin hot. Rock on Mr. Prime Minister. Rock on.
Eric - I agree with your post.
Clinton should have just told the Republican led inquiry/investigation to F off, and it was none of their business.
Yes, he did lie under oath, which was a mistake and against the law.
I can see why he did it though. He wasn't lying to try and cover up criminal activity, just to save his pride.
(hi-fives Darryl)
Clinton was guilty of promoting that woman because she did those things for him. That is against the law. Employees should not think they have to be whores to get promotions. It is a violation of worker's rights to add that sort of expectation in ANY work place. It is an actual crime. That is why he deserved to lose his job. Next to that, lying about whether it happened was the lesser infraction.
It is proved that the Italian prez. promoted a women for covering up his pedo crimes. Both are crimes. He needs to go on trial and be ousted as well.
American Lobo - Your history is off, First Clinton lied under oath, then the inquiry came. So he did not lie under oath as a response to the inquiry.
I firmly believe that if we punished perjury with prison terms, half the legal cases that jam our system would go away.
You have no constitutional protection to lie under oath, you can plead the 5th amendment and refuse to incriminate yourself.
He is supporting the economy, without being a hippocrite. More like a modern day BOND
I am mystified by the haters who manage to insert some comment referencing their personal political biases into every topic that is presented to them, no matter how remote the subject. It's like a mental health disorder, OCD or something. Here is what your exchanges sound like:
"Nice weather today." "Yeah, obviously all of that Democrat global warming is nothing but bullsh*t."
Or else, "I'm not feeling well today." "Well, don't count on Obama-care to help you."
Or maybe "I think my husband might be having an affair." "He's a Democrat, right? Typical. Republicans don't behave like that."
Most of you are obviously not even reading the posts that you are responding to. Get help. Seriously.
American Lobos, you are apparently casting pearls before swine on this thread.
Only in America will you find impeachment proceedings for lying about a BJ.
These girls are underage? They look like they're 35 years old. One of them said that Burlesconi is looking over the hill. Sweetie, you're off by about 40 years. I guess seeing all the money can make anyone blind.
PUUULLEASE . No man in history has ever payed for sex . Never has , Never will . Getting the partner to gather her things and get the hell out is what costs money .
I forgot what is means. Honestly though I did have a mental blank once and couldn't figure out why o-v didn't seem like the correct way to spell of. The mind is a terrible thing...
American Lobo: Your making a couple of mistakes in your comment about Clinton. The first is the man lied to the American public in a world-wide TV event claiming he did "NOT" have sex with "that woman".
Second: When confronted with evidence that proved he did have sex with "That Woman" he then claimed that he did not consider a BJ as sex.
Third: The President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces leads to an interesting dilemna for him - Is the President of the United States subject to the same Uniform Code of Military Justice that all members from enlisted to Commissioned Officer are subject to - the US Supreme Court would have to render that decision but preceding courst decisions would indicate the President is subject to the Rule of Law whether its Military Law in his military role or civil as President. Why is this important - very simple - Adultry is a felony under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You do remember "Slick" was married at the time?
Finally we expect our Presidents to be truthful, honest and honorable - clinton failed on all of those - as a Nation we should and do expect better. Thius is not a "boys will be boys" kind of thing - this was one further example of an inflated ego and aelief he was above the law and decency - he stepped outside the bounds of acceptable behavior.
This "little" girl was a prostitute - there would be no discussion on this if the event had taken place in Greece or Morroco or any number of other country's where prostitution i legal at 15 or above. He is an idiot - with sooo many women more than willing to meet his desires he did not have to go into underage girls - now he needs to pay the piper - she needs to be deported.
Clinton should have refused to answer, plain and simple. Lying about it was his mistake.
So you are saying that military personnel don't cheat or have sex with other women while serving? I'd have disagree on that one.
I personally know vets(family members/friends that fought in Korea/Vietnam/Afghanistan). They all have stories about service members having mistresses or bed buddies overseas. Many were married or in serious relationships back home, yet still committed "adultery". None of them were charged with a crime by their superiors.
How many personnel are actually prosecuted for adultery under the UCMJ? Not a large percentage of those who are "guilty" of it(if any), I'd bet.
A sex scandal involving an Italian politician? That just can't be, the Italians would never think to vote into Parliment one of the most famous of all Italian porn stars, Ciccilona, would they?
Is it even possible for Italians to have any shame? After all, just think of what pride Italians can have with such icons as the Mob, the 'Vatican' (of pedophiles), and a thriving modeling industry in Milan that turns a blind eye to the rape of hundreds of young models by wealthy Italians similar to Berlusconi and their playboy sons.
I have to go take a shower now, I feel dirty just writing about it.
What a pedifile. And this bastard gets away with it? Hang him up by his you know whats then serve it to him for dinner.
Pedophiles are into pre-pubescent children, and most often force or talk their way into sexual encounters with them.
The PM might be a scumbag, but he's hardly a pedophile.
This girl was in an occupation that was about looking sexy(and most likely having sex on the side). She's not innocent, she's in it for the $$.
You are right so the PM is Sex Offender. But still no difference. UNDER AGE is UNDER AGE.
Man, I don't know about you Frisch, but I can't blame this guy one bit.
Google image search this girl and Minetti. OH MY GOD! No wonder Italians but up with him, I guarantee all the men over there secretly wish to be in his....shoes.
Yeah and secretly in prison as some guys bitch.
Excuse me, the girl was underage and she was almost certainly being exploited. Find me a teenager who WANTS to have sex with a fat, 50 or 60 something old man? The trafficking of teenagers is a crime and should be a felony.
The clinically correct term for an adult male who prefers to have sex with teenagers is ephebophila, which is still a pathology because it indicates a male who cannot enjoy relationships with a female as a peer. However, pedophilia is a common term for adult males who wish to have sex with anyone under legal age. So, Lobo you are wrong.
What is really a greater concern is that this man once had power over law and abused his power at his convenience. Even if you think that sex between an adult and a teen is not a crime, you should recognize that his abuse of power IS a crime.
Thank you differnet for clarifying that. I've learned something new today. I hope Lobo has to, no I really don't think so.
Hey frisch, how bout you learn to spell "pedophile" as well before you start slapping the term on other people.
differnet:
Wrong.
From the time boys and girls hit puberty and are able to make babies, they become more sexually oriented beings. Just because modern society says you have to be 18 or over to have consentual sex, it doesn't jive with the laws of nature. Some women are attracted to older powerful men. Are you going to say that a 16 year old star struck girl doesn't want to sleep with her favorite 40-50 year old actor/musician? You would be lying if you did.
Have you listened to or talked to teens nowadays? I've seen 15-16 year girls olds intent on learning how to be sexier to attract powerful/rich men(their celebrity/music idols aren't helping them much or setting very good examples).
How about all those models barely out of their teens who go out with OLD men for their money.
Most men wish they could be like Hugh Hefner and have young models as girlfriends(and change them as often as the oil on their cars).
If that girl was a professional belly dancer that did parties, she knew how to be sexy and seductive. There is no reason to believe she wasn't there because she wanted to be there.
differnet: I also suggest you look up PEDOPHILIA, before you start injecting your own definitons into a post.
You didn't clarify anything, but your own personal opinion.
I remember having sex with girls under 18, while I was also under 18.
Should that be a crime as well?
It sounds like some of you are just too puritanical, and are afraid of or hung up about sex.
If "God" made our bodies able to procreate from 13-14 years old, are you saying "God" is wrong?
"God"/mother nature gave us sex drives for a reason.
Italians predisposed to "their self importance" and "sexiness" is hilarious. Any Peron should realige that THIS PIG specialized in vulnerable children wanting attention and the "good life" with the least work possible. Without the money and the "office" this slime would be pulling his pud without the benefit of a womans help. A pure disgrace, a republicrap heaven only with girls instead. I know why the republicraps disliked Bill and his BJ, it was given by a woman and not somebody's son.
just so U people know, the age of consent in Italy is 14!!! that's right, these girls are not considered under age in italy!! it is illegal in italy to pay a girl between 14 and 18 for sex!! it's not illegal if U don't pay them!!!
i'm not saying it's right, just letting U know what the law is...
Lobo, my definitions come from the DSN. Sorry, but you are wrong.
Here you go differnet.
As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is typically defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 and older) characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary). The child must be at least five years younger in the case of adolescent pedophiles.[1][2][3][4] The word comes from the Greek: παῖς (paîs), meaning "child," and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship",[5] though this literal meaning has been altered toward sexual attraction in modern times, under the titles "child love" or "child lover", by pedophiles who use symbols and codes to identify their preferences.[6][7] The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) defines pedophilia as a "disorder of adult personality and behaviour" in which there is a sexual preference for children of prepubertal or early pubertal age.[8] The term has a range of definitions as found in psychiatry, psychology, the vernacular, and law enforcement.
I doubt the PM is into women who are not sexually developed or sexually active. Nothing he has done, shows that he has a mental problem that forces him to predate on prepubescent or near pubescent girls.
So in calling him a "pedophile", YOU are wrong.
What's with the smear campaign against the Italian people, msnbc?! Hypocrites? As if so many Americans aren't!
As for Berlusconi, he's a pig. He's a corrupt, womanizing piece of garbage. That said, I fail to understand what do his orgies have to do with his actual crime of having sex with an underage girl. A person can have as many orgies as they want as long as all participants are legally adult and consenting and condenming them for that is the same type of hypocricy you accuse the Italian people in. It's pathetic. Go smear him over being a dirty, nasty pedo, not over the consensual sex he had. UGH.
The difference is that several of the orgies involved underaged girls. Even when they were of legal age, he lied about being involved. HE LIED.
As the Prime Minister (who was married during this) doing such disgusting acts and lying is...well, a crime.
And seriously, if the average man does such a thing, he is a pig too.
And he used his power to hide his prediliction to engage in orgies with under-aged females.
the people in the USA just have a hard time understanding that it is NOT illegal in Europe to have sex with a 17 year-old! it's Not illegal to have sex with a 14 year-old, as 14 is the age of consent in Europe! it is illegal to pay anyone under 18 for sex, that is why he is charged with paying a person under the age of 18 for Sex... the act itself is legal... paying for it isn't!!!
he offered money she accepted
bitch needs to know that shes at fault too
Not true, just google "the age of consent". Each European country has it's own legal system.
U are right, Each country does have their own age of consent. in italy it is 14! this girl was 17, so why are people saying she was under-age???
This is just power at its worst. I pray for these.
What??? They're having a ball!! Pray for us!
I'm glad you said Pray instead of Prey.
pray for me @!$%# i wish this would happen to me
Sick man! Lock him up and throw away the key. I will add that these young girls are beautiful, and although young, no doubt used their beauty and sexuality to get what they wanted.
So what. As far as the girls go - if you've got it, flaunt it. If you can use it to get ahead - do so! What would really be shameful & even 'sinful' were if these beautiful young women were to WASTE THEIR LIVES living like the rest of us! IF YOU"VE GOT IT - GO FOR IT! (As far as Belusconi is concerned - time for him to concentrate on what he obviously does best - the bedroom NOT the office!)
Wow SJIS;
You are one sick puppy. You must be pedophile oriented.
Under American law (don't know about Italian) girls under the age of consent cannot legally give consent for sex. They are incapable, no matter how much they know, whether they're the instigators, or why they say they're doing it. An adult having sex is raping them, period, no gray area, no middle ground.
Adults are expected to know better and have self control. The children are innocent by definition.
SJIS,
Pathetic that one would hold someone's value so low. If you've got it flaunt it, and use it to get ahead? How about use your brains to get ahead, and your beauty is just an added bonus. Let's hope these young ladies have higher expectations and aspirations than to be some old guys fantasy.
yeah, like 5 million Euro's. That girl can retire earlier than Miley Cyrus!
This girl is obviously wise beyond her years to some degree. She wanted the money so she did what would get her the money, just like a prostitute does. She is not just an innocent 17 year old!
Why should he have his cake & eat it too? Let him (Berlusconi) carry on with the girls - they ARE beautiful young women - and leave office! How does he manage to get reelected every time! How does he find the time to govern Italy? Why don't the people just throw him out of office so he can pursue what he does best - underage sexpots!
I still don't understand the phrase "Have your cake and eat it too".
What would be the point of having a cake if you cannot eat it?
Perhaps I would like to just eat the cake, but not have it.
the saying means that once U eat the cake, it's gone and U no-longer have it... kind of like having a pay-check, once U spend it, U no-longer have it!!!
I'm crushed over the Berlusconi scandal - along with this older scandal recently come to light?
"Slick Jimmy Don Clyde - Undefeated Drag Racer" et al.
http://www.voicesnet.org/displayonepoem.aspx?poemid=191330
Caligula still lives in the form of 74 yr. old Berlusconi with the help of much Viagra and plenty of $. The tradtions of the old Roman Empire has not been forgotten.
I'll never eat pizza again. 'spit'
The Italian version of JFK.
Judging by the looks of these girls, I'd say he has no regrets... I wouldn't...
and people thought Clinton was bad!
This is the nation that holds an inocent Amanda Knox. Look at the so-called evidence in this bs. Screw Italy. Never been there and never will be.
guy, then you will never know what you've missed. It's a beautiful country.
As for Amanda Knox, are you so sure that she is innocent ? She has changed her story a few times. First she said that she was in the house, and she heard the victim's screams, but later she said that no, she wasn't there. You don't change your story like that, when you are implicated in a murder case. But you personally know very well that she is innocent. Why, because her mom says that she is a good girl ? Or because she is an American, and the victim wasn't ? By the way, Amanda's boyfriend was found guilty too, and he is an Italian, and from an affluent Italian family.
@Guy- I'm originally from Texas. My father is in the Navy, so I lived in Italy for almost Seven Years. It is an absolutely amazing country. Not only is it beautiful, it's unique, historical, and you'll never come close to anything like it. But for you to say that you've never been, nor do you want to is just stupid. You don't know what it's like til you try it! Italy is a great place, and you're very ignorant to speak that way of it.
You gotta love this guy. As long as he is making sound decisions for his country, who cares?
is he making sound decisions?
like Clinton, if he is lying about something like this, he's probably lying about all sorts of other things as well. you guys that support him are insane. he is a LIAR and should not be the one leading Italy
Berlusconi is not making sound decisions. He is changing Italian laws so that he can get off the hook for all his corruption scandals and links with the mafia. Very sound decisions for HIM and his associates. He made his 26-year-old (gorgeous) dental hygienist a Senator. Why not his horse? Maybe he's not into horses... Anyway, Miss Senator is the one who's providing him with underage girls to bang serially.
If you are asking how he could possibly slam a whore into the Italian Senate: well, he changed the electoral law so that people cannot elect their representatives. People can only vote for a party, and then the party leader distributes seats to his cronies. Or to his dental hygienist/madame.
That's democracy in Italy now. All courtesy of Berlusconi's "sound decisions".
And please, can't we raise the level of the comments in this chat? It's not just a matter of men having fun with consensual adults. Berlusconi is being investigated for rape (yes, sex with a minor of 18 years is as ILLEGAL in Italy as it is in the US). It's a matter of a PRIME MINISTER, the leader of his country, not resigning in front of serious accusations, far from it: he's BOASTING about his sexual exploits, and bringing SHAME on his country.
By the way, he's not lying, he's minimizing.
A headline on one of the newspapers he owns: "Would you rather have an old pig or a young hypocrite?". Quite beside the question, I'd say: I'd rather have an upstanding Prime Minister, thank you very much. But see, even his own newspaper proudly announce that he's an old pig. They have no shame.
Just another typical "Italian Stallion".
ALL politicians are liars no matter what country they're from. Do you really think that they are in this position of power to help anyone but themselves?
Sounds like Nevada's republican Senator John Ensign
gia-1007883, Do you realy think it is ok for a leader of a country to have orgies? Let alone being a petifile?
Is this the moral leadership you want for Italy? Where do you want your country lead to.
Pedophile; I think not. Go to her Facebook page and take a look at her photo's. This girl is gorgeous and is not a naive little teenager.
unfortunately, Italy is disgusting and believes 14 to be the age of consent.
but, he DID pay for it and THAT is illegal.
btw, everyone who says she is gorgeous has terrible taste. she's OK, but nothing more
Let's face it, the girl is very beautiful. I can see why he might be head over heels over her. If she never told him she was underage, I'm sure he wasn't inclined to ask. Any one of us might feel very thankful to have a gorgeous person like that in our lives to help us feel young and vital. At the same time, this article portrays her as a prostitute and thief so if true, she's no stranger to the seamier side of life. Young yes. Innocent, no.
Men (and women) of great wealth and influence have used their power and money to obtain what they want since time immemorial. Berlusconi might be a pig, but chances are he's just an old guy who has to pay to hang out with beautiful young women.
And that's mostly sad and laughable.
Wasn't this the same sleezoid who caused a huge fuss a few years ago for getting caught on film "air humping" an unsuspecting female police officer from behind while she was in the process of writing a traffic ticket on some street in Rome?
You'd think people would have figured out then he was not the kind of boorish idiot to be running a country.
So, exactly what kind of boorish idiot do you like running countries?
you can always elect me lol
Let's face it, the girl is very beautiful. I can see why he might be head over heels over her. If she never told him she was underage, I'm sure he wasn't inclined to ask. Any one of us might feel very thankful to have a gorgeous person like that in our lives to help us feel young and vital. At the same time, this article portrays her as a prostitute and thief so if true, she's no stranger to the seamier side of life. Young yes. Innocent, no.
Men (and women) of great wealth and influence have used their power and money to obtain what they want since time immemorial. Berlusconi might be a pig, but chances are he's just an old guy who has to pay to hang out with beautiful young women.
And that's mostly sad and laughable.
Berlusconi Fights 'Bunga Bunga' Sex Allegations
The Italian Prime Minister has proposed a new law preventing magistrates pursuing elected officials.
No wonder he had to pay for it. Even with all the power he has in Italy, he still looks like he was hit with the ugly stick. Of course, that doesn't let off the girls (and yeah they're girls cuz nothing older could stroke his ego)who took the money and did the deed. We all know what that makes them right? It doesn't matter if they had legitimate employment elsewhere or stood on a street corner. Sex for any type of remuneration still makes you a prostitute.
If this girl was truthful about her age then he has problems but if not there is not a person on this board who wouldn't believe this girl if she told them she was 27.
she looks underaged to me. she has a baby face for crying out loud!
EL PORKO, should be this farts name.he's a preditor and qa deviant. these women aren't any different.he looks like Caligula the Roman Emperor. all he needs is a toga.the italian people better smarten up and get this piece of dirt out of office. her's making thaty beautiful country laughing stock.GET RID OF HIM!THE FILTHY PIG.
That ain't all he's making, ha-ha, sorry, but there are those that do and get caught and then are those that do and lie about it.. also it is not a gender exclusive club. Don't think for a minute, beautiful young women that go this route don't know what their doing. Temptation, it's a testing task that isn't that easy to pass up.
it should of been he's making that beautiful country a laughing stock!anywho, i still say he's el porko, ev en if that temptation isn't easy to pass up.
one more thing el porko is staring mortality square in the face, i think he's in a race with it. he's 74yrs. old.i think he's scared crapless of being old and feeble.